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Summary: Problem with French-Canadian layout
Product: Fedora
Version: 15
Platform: i686
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: unspecified
Priority: unspecified
Component: ibus
AssignedTo: tfujiwar(a)redhat.com
ReportedBy: nomnex(a)gmail.com
QAContact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org
CC: tfujiwar(a)redhat.com,
i18n-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org,
shawn.p.huang(a)gmail.com
Classification: Fedora
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Type: ---
Description of problem:
First off, this is far beyond my level of understanding. I try to explain in an
understandable way:
I use a JP notebook with a en_US OS. I usually type in English. Because I need
to type French, I have set a Canadian French layout keyboard using a setxbmap
command. When I push right "Ctrl+Shift" keys, the layout switch. All is fine.
Now, when I rely on ibus to input Japanese and french, switching from one
language input to another (Alt+Shift), the Canadian-keyboard layout is not
complete. Many of the keys are not mapped to the correct character.
e.g. the "[" and "]" char: I can type them using ibus (japanese-anthy)
or/and
when I switch layout using the setxbmpa command (ibus off). But I cannot type
them with ibus set to French-Canadian input.
I am not positive, but it appears only the basic keys (a-z, dead keys and usage
signs) are correctly mapped on the fr_ca layout in ibus, andnot the full
layout. Is this possible?
To sum up:
When I switch from "default US" to "fr_ca" (ibus is not in action),
the "[" and
"]" char are mapped to a different keys on the keyboard, but they are
available.
Using ibus:
When I turn ibus on to input "jp", the same char "[" and "]"
are still mapped
on the same keys-all fine. If I switch to ibus "fr_ca" input, the "["
and "]"
char are not mapped to anything on my keyboard. I have the same problem with
several other keys not mapped to anything, or incorrectly mapped, on the
Canadian-French layout
My apology if my explanation is not very clear. Or if I am doing something
wrong (e.g. user mistake, or misunderstanding).
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
F-15 LXDE
IBus 1.3.99.20110908 (Japanese-anthy & Fr_ca inputs)
How reproducible:
always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Set ibus with JP & Canadian input - add French-Canadian keyboard in advance
pref (on a non Canadian keyboard)
2. Switch from JP to Fr_Ca, using Alt+Shift
3. Try the correspondent keys to a default Canadian keyboard, "[",
"{", "]",
"{", etc. most of them are not available, and some other key are changed,eg.
">" instead of the expected "}"
Actual results:
using ibus and switching to the Canadian-French layout is incomplete on my
system.
Expected results:
full layout change, using ibus with "fr_ca" (what setxbmap command does when I
need to input French, and when the input method is switched off)
Additional info:
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--- Comment #1 from fujiwara <tfujiwar(a)redhat.com> 2011-09-30 04:29:54 EDT ---
At first, please try to use the latest ibus.
# yum install ibus
If you enable ibus-anthy, the keyboard layout is inherited from the system
keyboard layout.
ibus-setup can modify the system keyboard layout but I'd recommend to use
gnome-control-center at the moment.
% gnome-control-center region
If the default layout is 'jp', anthy layout is also 'jp'.
If the default layout is 'us', anthy layout is also 'us'.
Fedora 16 will be able to show the system keyboard layouts on ibus menu too.
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--- Comment #2 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-03 03:33:39 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #1)
At first, please try to use the latest ibus.
# yum install ibus
it's the second time I read this recommendation along your answers, but --
unless to be wrong -- Fedora ibus repos is up to date (I use the f-repo to
update ibus)
Name : ibus
Arch : i686
Version : 1.3.99.20110817
Release : 4.fc15
Size : 1.8 M
Repo : installed
From repo : updates
Summary : Intelligent Input Bus for
Linux OS
URL : http://code.google.com/p/ibus/
License : LGPLv2+
Description : IBus means Intelligent Input Bus. It is an input framework for
: Linux OS.
If you enable ibus-anthy, the keyboard layout is inherited from the
system
keyboard layout.
So, here, it looks like there is a problem. When I set with the setxbmap
command a "fr_ca", I have got the full layout (including the R-Alt key mapped
keys).
When I use ibus, the right Alt key is not mapped to anything, and all the
right-Alt key combo of the he "fr_ca" keyboard layout are not available.
I enclose 2 print-screens for more clarity:
1. in clear, the "fr_ca" keyboard layout (red=Shift key/ blue=right Alt key).
That's what I've got when I use the setxbmap command
2. same layout with "error stamp marks". that's the "layout"
I've got when I
use i-bus "fr_ca". All the R-Alt key combo are not mapped (at least on my
system).
To complicate even more the situation, there is no right ALT key on the
Japanese keyboard notebooks, but I use a JP usb keyboard which has a right Alt
key, and - as stated above - the right Alt key is correctly mapped when I
switch to "fr_ca" using the setxbmap command, but it is not when I use ibus.
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Created attachment 525990
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using setxbmap command to swtich to "fr_ca" layout (default layout
"jp")
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Created attachment 525991
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switching layout in ibus from "jp" to "fr_ca" - keys not mapped
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--- Comment #5 from fujiwara <tfujiwar(a)redhat.com> 2011-10-03 04:07:47 EDT ---
Please use ibus-1.4.0 or later.
# yum install --enablerepo=updates-testing ibus
(In reply to comment #2)
To complicate even more the situation, there is no right ALT key on
the
Japanese keyboard notebooks, but I use a JP usb keyboard which has a right Alt
key, and - as stated above - the right Alt key is correctly mapped when I
switch to "fr_ca" using the setxbmap command, but it is not when I use ibus.
I don't expect to use setxkbmap. I'd ask to run 'gnome-control-center
region'
to set the default keyboard layout with options on GNOME desktop.
If you use no XKB configuration on another desktop, the default XKB setting
must be called before ibus-daemon is called.
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--- Comment #6 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-04 01:54:26 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #5)
I don't expect to use setxkbmap. I'd ask to run
'gnome-control-center region'
to set the default keyboard layout with options on GNOME desktop.
If you use no XKB configuration on another desktop, the default XKB setting
must be called before ibus-daemon is called.
I use the Fedora LXDE Spin. There is no 'gnome-control-center region' or
similar application at my knowledge.
my default:
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard
KEYTABLE="jp106"
MODEL="jp106"
LAYOUT="jp"
KEYBOARDTYPE="pc"
I added a another keyboard layout "ca", as explained here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXDE#Keyboard_layout
using method 1: /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
This work without problem, as long as I am outside ibus (turn off input
method).
When I configure ibus with the same layout "ca", and use it, some keys are not
mapped (see print-screen: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=525991)
a. do you suggest to install 'gnome-control-center region' on my current DE
LXDE. - is it compatible with my DE?
b. do you explain me that ibus on another destkop than Gnome (specifically, on
a LXDE DE) is likely to produce some problems?
Forgive the confusion. I have installed the F-LXDE spin. I set ibus to have a
second input language "fr" with a "ca" keyboard layout. Some keys are
not
mapped when I switch to this input language. I am not sure if I understand your
answer, as what is not working, and what can (could) be done - if anything - on
my side. Thanks.
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(In reply to comment #6)
a. do you suggest to install 'gnome-control-center region' on
my current DE
LXDE. - is it compatible with my DE?
b. do you explain me that ibus on another destkop than Gnome (specifically, on
a LXDE DE) is likely to produce some problems?
I mean if ibus is no problem on GNOME desktop in your laptop, I think your
problem is not ibus but a configuration something because ibus doesn't change
the behavior between desktops as ibus works on glib2 and dbus.
Then I'd asked you just to use GNOME since I guess it might be hard for you to
find which configuration is wrong.
I don't see any problems in either GNOME and LXDE.
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--- Comment #8 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-04 03:51:44 EDT ---
once again, thank you for you time on this problem.
Can you confirm 2 points:
1. do you have the full keys mapped (incl. the R-Alt key combinations) when you
set ibus to Language "French"/Keyboard:"ca" on a LXDE DE?
NB: I would agree to a configuration problem and not bother on this bug report,
but I have not 1, but 2 different notebooks set with a default F-15 LXDE DE.
Both use ibus set to French language with "ca" keyboard input. On both
notebooks, the R-Alt key combinations are not mapped. The same occurs when I
create new user account.
2. Comment7: "I'd asked you just to use GNOME" = do you mean to install
'gnome-control-center region' on LXDE, or do you mean to install GNOME desktop,
instead of LXDE?
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(In reply to comment #8)
once again, thank you for you time on this problem.
Can you confirm 2 points:
1. do you have the full keys mapped (incl. the R-Alt key combinations) when you
set ibus to Language "French"/Keyboard:"ca" on a LXDE DE?
Yes, any XKB options could work in my env.
Do you enable the XKB options when you run ibus by manual?
1. Run im-chooser and disable ibus.
2. log in the desktop session again.
3. Check if XKB options work correctly.
% /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
4. Run ibus by manual
% ibus-daemon --xim &
5. Check if XKB options work correctly.
% /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
2. Comment7: "I'd asked you just to use GNOME" = do you
mean to install
'gnome-control-center region' on LXDE, or do you mean to install GNOME desktop,
instead of LXDE?
I mean to install GNOME desktop instead of LXDE to identify your problem.
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--- Comment #10 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-10 02:04:30 EDT ---
from the above:
Command 1:
[mt@nh28d ~]$ /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
layout: jp,ca
model:
option:
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[mt@nh28d ~]$
Command 2:
[mt@nh28d ~]$ /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
layout: jp,ca
model:
option:
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[mt@nh28d ~]$ ibus-daemon --xim &
[1] 4038
[mt@nh28d ~]$ /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
layout: jp,ca
model:
option:
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[mt@nh28d ~]$
Everything seems to work fine, except that, I don't have full "fr_ca"
keyboard
layout on both computers: The Left-Alt key is not mapped to any key when I use
i-bus.
Sorry, I cannot follow your advice installing GNOME shell. These computer are
too old.
Anyway, thank you for your time. If it works on you end, and not on my end, it
might be difficult to got further, at my level of knowledge.
Workaround: I turn off ibus method, and switch keyboard using the setxbmap
command to get a full layout.
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--- Comment #11 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-10 02:42:12 EDT ---
NB: I am not sure if this is relevant but, I just noticed that, after passing
your commands, any ibus input language selection is ineffective for the
session.
I enclose a print screen: if I switch to JP input and type "konichiha" in the
lxterminal windows, the roman characters are not converted in kana.
I will probably recover the input language after loggin-off/on?
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(In reply to comment #10)
option:
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
It seems you don't specify any XKB options for Alt (I mean altwin:* options)
So I think your left Alt should be normal Alt.
If you run 'ibus-xkb --get' command again after you switch to "French
(Canada)"
on ibus menu, the output shows 'ca' correctly.
I checked Canadian French keyboard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Canadian_French_.28Quebec.29
The Left Alt is normal against right Alt. So if you type Alt_L + f on gedit,
the File menu will be open. Alt_R is AltGR on Canadian_French.
Sorry, I cannot follow your advice installing GNOME shell. These
computer are
too old.
Probably I'd like to close this bug since I think it's not a bug.
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--- Comment #14 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-15 20:49:18 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #13)
(In reply to comment #10)
> option:
>
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
It seems you don't specify any XKB options for Alt (I mean altwin:* options)
So I think your left Alt should be normal Alt.
yes, it does
If you run 'ibus-xkb --get' command again after you switch to
"French (Canada)"
on ibus menu, the output shows 'ca' correctly.
yes, it does
I checked Canadian French keyboard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Canadian_French_.28Quebec.29
The Left Alt is normal against right Alt. So if you type Alt_L + f on gedit,
the File menu will be open. Alt_R is AltGR on Canadian_French.
Probably I'd like to close this bug since I think it's not a
bug.
sorry, but there is a problem. it'is not a user problem, and it is not a
machine problem.
after installing lxde on 2 different PCs, ibus set with Japanese & the
Canadian_french input reproduce the same behavior: the left Alt with the
"fr_ca" is only mapped with the dead keys (accents: à, ç, ...) and basic
punctuation keys (dot, comma,). Most of the other sings keys - see attachment
in comment #4 - ( [,], \, ^, =, +) remain of the default layout (for instance
"jp", on my system).
as I have said, when I run a setxbmap command (outside ibus), by comparison, I
have a full working keyboard layout (letters, dead key, signs).
this is the command I am using (it only allow me to switch keyboard layout
outside ibus):
setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll jp,ca
you answered that you cannot reproduce the problem and all the keys, inc. the
left Alt key, are correctly mapped on your end, when you switch to "ca_fr" in
ibus, on a LXDE de.
in comment #1 you said:
If you enable ibus-anthy, the keyboard layout is inherited from the
system
keyboard layout.
It is, but some of the keys mapped to the Alt_R (or GRAlt) remains mapped to a
"JP" layout (see attachment in comment #4)
in comment #5 you said:
If you use no XKB configuration on another desktop, the default XKB
setting
must be called before ibus-daemon is called.
I don't really understand this. however, it seems to me the keyboard layouts
are already configured in the Fedora dist. (Gnome, LXDE, KDE, etc.) the only
missing option in LXDE is a GUI configuration to have several different input
layouts (what I achieved with the setxkbmap command).
it looks to me there is a conflict in ibus when I switch to "ca_fr" using a
"jp" default layout.
I keep posting back, because I can reproduce the same problem onmy 2 computers.
They have a completely different hardware, but the software configuration is
identical: both are clean install of F-15 LXDE, with ibus set to "JP" default
with "ca_fr" additional input.
On both machine the Alt_R key remains mapped to "jp" input for the sing keys
described in comment 4# (keys mapped with a red dot)
It is certain that my configuration is uncommon. but let's say if I would
install F-15 LXDE on a few more JP notebooks, and set ibus with the "fr_ca"
input. the Alt_R key would reproduce the same behavior. So, wouldn't it apply
as a bug?
Of course, I can wait until F-16, but I worry the issue remains. I had the same
problem on F-14 already.
Sorry to be so insisting on this. Of course, if there is no solution, or if it
involves a too great amount of work for a single user (I), I will live with it.
Thanks again.
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--- Comment #15 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-15 22:35:57 EDT ---
I am still trying to understand what's wrong in the connection between ibus+
default jp layout + additional "ca" input.
1. when Ibus is turned off (turn off input method)
- default layout is "jp"
- using the setxkbmap command above, I can switch full "ca" layout (all key are
working)
2. when Ibus is set to Japanese layout (Ctrl+Space, default input "Hiragana"):
- switching to "ca" in ibus = L_Alt keys is not mapped with many keys:
±@£¢¤¬¦²³¼½¾\][~{}\ (no input when I press them)
2. when Ibus is set to Japanese layout AND I use my combo R-Ctl+R-Shift to
change layout (setxkbmap command)
- it creates a mix of hiragan input (ibus) + the "ca" dead keys (accents) -
that's a mess. The "ca" signs keys ±@£¢¤¬¦²³¼½¾\][~{}\ don't produce
input
either.
It summaries what I experience, but I run out of idea.
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--- Comment #16 from fujiwara <tfujiwar(a)redhat.com> 2011-10-17 03:06:29 EDT ---
You changed the bug category.
(In reply to comment #14)
sorry, but there is a problem. it'is not a user problem, and it
is not a
machine problem.
Probably I think the problem is the user problem.
after installing lxde on 2 different PCs, ibus set with Japanese
& the
Canadian_french input reproduce the same behavior: the left Alt with the
"fr_ca" is only mapped with the dead keys (accents: à, ç, ...) and basic
punctuation keys (dot, comma,). Most of the other sings keys - see attachment
in comment #4 - ( [,], \, ^, =, +) remain of the default layout (for instance
"jp", on my system).
The left Alt is not AltGR.
To output ']', I think you need to use AltGR instead of left Alt with ca.
as I have said, when I run a setxbmap command (outside ibus), by
comparison, I
have a full working keyboard layout (letters, dead key, signs).
I don't see any differences.
this is the command I am using (it only allow me to switch keyboard
layout
outside ibus):
setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll jp,ca
1. Run setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
jp,ca
2. Run ibus-daemon
Then ibus get the current keyboard layout with ibus-xkb:
% /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
layout: jp,ca
model:
option: grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
3. Choose ca layout
Then ibus runs ibus-xkb and sets the ca layout:
% /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb -l ca -o
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
% /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
layout: ca
model:
option: grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
ibus just runs ibus-xkb so actually you can confirm the ibus behavior with the
command line directly without ibus-daemon.
% ibus-xkb -l layout -m model -o options.
It is, but some of the keys mapped to the Alt_R (or GRAlt) remains
mapped to a
"JP" layout (see attachment in comment #4)
What is some of keys?
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--- Comment #17 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-18 10:33:46 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #16)
Probably I think the problem is the user problem.
The left Alt is not AltGR.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Canadian_French_.28Quebec.29
To output ']', I think you need to use AltGR instead of left Alt with ca.
it is a user problem, if there is user action. So far there is no user action.
I only set "ca" input in ibus, and that does not work as expected.
I enclose 2 print-screens.
1. read color: AltGR key and correspondent keys not mapped on my keyboard(s)
with ibus set to "ca" input
2. blue color: AltGR key and correspondent keys mapped on my keyboard(s) when I
use setxkbmap command "ca".
There must be an explanation. when I set "ca" with setxkbmap, my "Alt"
key
(japanese notebook keyboard layout & usb Japanese keyboard layout) is correctly
mapped. It is not when I set "ca" in ibus.
I don't see any differences.
I know. So there is a problem if the exact similar issue occur on the 2
notebooks I have, both with vanilla (default) settings.
1. Run setxkbmap -option
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
jp,ca
okay
2. Run ibus-daemon
Then ibus get the current keyboard layout with ibus-xkb:
% /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
layout: jp,ca
model:
option: grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
[mt@nh28d LXDE]$ /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
layout: jp,ca
model:
option:
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
3. Choose ca layout
Then ibus runs ibus-xkb and sets the ca layout:
% /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb -l ca -o
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
% /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
layout: ca
model:
option: grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
[mt@nh28d LXDE]$ /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get
layout: ca
model:
option:
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
ibus just runs ibus-xkb so actually you can confirm the ibus behavior
with the
command line directly without ibus-daemon.
% ibus-xkb -l layout -m model -o options.
Okay
Now, do you see something in the commands outputs above I don't see? Because,
when I pass the command:
[mt@nh28d LXDE]$ /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb -l ca
the AltGR key is correctly mapped!!! (same as in the print-screen 2 in blue
color).
I can type all the AltGR+mapped keys (in the open terminal window only. If
another window gains focus, the settings "jp".)
When I pass the command:
/usr/libexec/ibus-xkb -l ca -o
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
The Alt does not give any output (same as in the print-screen 1 in red color)
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Created attachment 528820
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Print-screen 1: ibus "ca" altgr + keys not mapped
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Created attachment 528821
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Print-screen 2: setxbmap "ca" altgr + keys mapped
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--- Comment #20 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-18 10:38:57 EDT ---
edit comment #17:
I can type all the AltGR+mapped keys (in the open terminal window only. If
another window gains focus, the setting [REVERTS TO] "jp" default input.)
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--- Comment #21 from fujiwara <tfujiwar(a)redhat.com> 2011-10-18 21:43:42 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #17)
it is a user problem, if there is user action. So far there is no
user action.
I only set "ca" input in ibus, and that does not work as expected.
k
I don't say the user action but I'd think your configuration was wrong for the
desktop or the bug explanation was failed and I think it would be not a bug for
ibus.
There must be an explanation. when I set "ca" with
setxkbmap, my "Alt" key
(japanese notebook keyboard layout & usb Japanese keyboard layout) is correctly
mapped. It is not when I set "ca" in ibus.
Now I think you have been mistaken to explain left Alt and right Alt. It would
bore me a bit.
[mt@nh28d LXDE]$ /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb -l ca
the AltGR key is correctly mapped!!! (same as in the print-screen 2 in blue
color).
I can type all the AltGR+mapped keys (in the open terminal window only. If
another window gains focus, the settings "jp".)
When I pass the command:
/usr/libexec/ibus-xkb -l ca -o
grp:switch,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
The Alt does not give any output (same as in the print-screen 1 in red color)
I have not thought to set XKB option per XKB engine. The system option will be
set for any XKB engines.
I'd suggest to replace grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle with another toggle option in
your system XKB settings. (e.g. grp:lctrl_lshift_toggle).
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--- Comment #22 from fujiwara <tfujiwar(a)redhat.com> 2011-10-18 21:46:21 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #20)
edit comment #17:
I can type all the AltGR+mapped keys (in the open terminal window only. If
another window gains focus, the setting [REVERTS TO] "jp" default input.)
Yes, it's the default behavior in ibus.
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--- Comment #23 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-22 10:49:57 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #21)
I don't say the user action but I'd think your configuration
was wrong for the
desktop or the bug explanation was failed and I think it would be not a bug for
ibus.
but I install the F-15 LXDE Spin on 2 pc. the configuration is the default. so
if it's a configuration problem, it's ibus-LXDE related. There is a glitch in
the way either one anther handles the keyboard layout "ca". If I had a third
notebook, I could reproduce it again.
I suspect it is only rarity of the specific setting (jp notebooks, lxde de +
anthy with "ca" input)
> There must be an explanation. when I set "ca" with
setxkbmap, my "Alt" key
> (japanese notebook keyboard layout & usb Japanese keyboard layout) is correctly
> mapped. It is not when I set "ca" in ibus.
Now I think you have been mistaken to explain left Alt and right Alt. It would
bore me a bit.
Thank you to have noticed. I meant "Right Alt" in the above paragraph.
I have not thought to set XKB option per XKB engine. The system
option will be
set for any XKB engines.
Could that be it? it seems ibus + gnome and ibus + lxde is different from the
way the later handle keyboard layout switch? I am not sure. but truly something
is wrong with the default LXDE + ibus configuration. It is probably a setting;
but it is not a user setting, it is the default setting that creates the
problem.
Would this problem be solved if you set XKB option per XKB engine, on light DE
spin as LXDE with the specific language configuration "default en_us, keyboard
jp + ca input"?
I'd suggest to replace grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle with another
toggle option in
your system XKB settings. (e.g. grp:lctrl_lshift_toggle).
This I want to try. Can you give more details I searched /usr/share/X11/xkb
file there is none. what's the path to the XKB file to edit on Fedora. Thank
you.
It would be great if I could have the RightAlt key mapped when I switch to "ca"
input in iubs. Thanks again.
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--- Comment #24 from nomnex <nomnex(a)gmail.com> 2011-11-07 04:03:40 EST ---
(In reply to comment #23)
(In reply to comment #21)
> I don't say the user action but I'd think your configuration was wrong for
the
> desktop or the bug explanation was failed and I think it would be not a bug for
> ibus.
Well, my apology for this one. Based on the your comments here, and (many)
trials, I finally I have a working French-Canadian keyboard layout in ibus :D
I am inexperienced with keyboard configuration. Any modification I tried in
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard, or by generating a xorg file, have failed.
However removing the setxkbmap command in /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart and
re-configuring the ibus advanced preferences did it on re-booting.
You were correct, it was a user configuration conflicting with ibus. Thank you
again for the follow up. From now on, I only rely on ibus to change input
language.
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The right Alt is used as AltGR so you could use another keybinding to switch
layouts except for right Alt.
As I noted, you could simply replace grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle with
grp:lctrl_lshift_toggle in /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart .
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