[irc-support-sig] #143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02

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#143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02
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Reporter:  ozborne   |       Owner:
    Type:  feedback  |      Status:  new
Priority:  critical  |   Milestone:  Fedora 17
 Version:            |    Severity:  Negative
Keywords:            |  Blocked By:
Blocking:            |
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  My IRC nick is: OzBorne

  Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this
  ticket:

 fenrus02 banned me while i was helping a user to make it with his ssd and
 partition.

  Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction:

 Conn-u

  Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on
  this feedback:

 Ask fenrus02 or operator like DiscordianUK not to be rude with users.

  Any additional notes or logs:

  Thanks for your feedback!

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#143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02
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  Reporter:  ozborne   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 17
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by fenris02):

 You will note, by your own admission - the logs you attached, that you
 were in fact, making the problems worse for the user.  You were told more
 than once to remain quiet.

 I am not the one that made threats, in fact, the requester made the
 threats prior to being silenced.

 You also left the #fedora channel on your own, without help.

 Again, this is not the first, second or even third time you have been
 banned for being abusive to other user.  Annoying and off-topic.

 For example: How long has the requester been banned from #Fedora-fr where
 his native language is spoken?

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#143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02
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  Reporter:  ozborne   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 17
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by fenris02):

 The attached log remains unclear: the actual date of the incident was
 2013-04-06, adjust as needed for your local TZ.

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#143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02
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  Reporter:  ozborne   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 17
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by fenris02):

 User even admits they were trolling:

  <OzBorne> despite i made some trolling i want to learn

 The longer this ticket remains open, the more problems this user presents.

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#143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02
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  Reporter:  ozborne   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 17
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by fenris02):

 Blatent disregard for others:

 {{{
 #fedora_20130406.log:[19:43:24] <fenrus02> OzBorne, hush
 #fedora_20130406.log:[19:43:25] <OzBorne> he wants to fix it under fedora
 #fedora_20130406.log:[19:45:11] <Conn-u> OzBorne: can you explain to me
 plz
 #fedora_20130406.log:[19:46:41] <fenrus02> OzBorne cannot join you there.
 he trolled too much and was banned.
 #fedora_20130406.log:[19:49:28] <OzBorne> fdisk
 #fedora_20130406.log:[19:49:33] <OzBorne> ext2/3/4
 #fedora_20130406.log:[19:49:43] <fenrus02> OzBorne, HUSH!
 #fedora_20130406.log:[19:49:51] <OzBorne> fenrus02> no
 }}}

 After a few minutes break, he returns with threats:

 {{{
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:05:01] *** fedbot sets mode: -q OzBorne!*@*
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:08:44] <OzBorne> good night
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:09:06] <OzBorne> fenrus02> dont test my patience
 either
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:09:21] <fenrus02> OzBorne, is that a threat?
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:09:29] <OzBorne> counseil
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:09:45] <fenrus02> OzBorne, sounds like a threat.
 rephrase.
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:09:58] <OzBorne> not more than yours
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:10:14] *** fedbot sets mode: +b $a:OzBorne
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:10:33] <fenrus02> OzBorne, dont threaten.  you
 were warned properly.
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:10:35] <fenrus02> go away OzBorne
 #fedora_20130406.log:[20:11:07] *** Quits: OzBorne
 (baden@unaffiliated/ozborne) (Quit: night all)
 }}}

 I would suggest a review again once this user is permitted back into
 #fedora-fr.

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#143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02
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  Reporter:  ozborne   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 17
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by jbwillia):

 user wanted a howto

 1) the world doesnt resolve around your anus grow up and learn some
 manners

 2) you do not need to be the center of attention see #1

 3) if you have a question about a Fedora issue ask it and wait, if no one
 answers you in ten minutes you may ask again, repeater as nessassary

 4) if the channel is busy dealing with other issues wait, read and learn
 Do not POST

 5) if you dont like the answer that is your issue not ours

 6) Your own actions drive our actions, Our Actions have been consistent
 with you but you haven't changed your behaviour

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[Clive Hills]

I take exception to Ozborne's name calling in the ticket itself. As I
recall I was not abusive or even involved in what started this immediate
ticket.
I am for the permaban to remain.

Clive


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:14 PM, irc-support-sig <trac(a)fedorahosted.org&gt;wrote:

>  #143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02
>  -----------------------+-----------------------
>    Reporter:  ozborne   |      Owner:
>        Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
>    Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 17
>     Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
>  Resolution:            |   Keywords:
>  Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
>  -----------------------+-----------------------
>
>  Comment (by jbwillia):
>
>   user wanted a howto
>
>   1) the world doesnt resolve around your anus grow up and learn some
>   manners
>
>   2) you do not need to be the center of attention see #1
>
>   3) if you have a question about a Fedora issue ask it and wait, if no one
>   answers you in ten minutes you may ask again, repeater as nessassary
>
>   4) if the channel is busy dealing with other issues wait, read and learn
>   Do not POST
>
>   5) if you dont like the answer that is your issue not ours
>
>   6) Your own actions drive our actions, Our Actions have been consistent
>   with you but you haven't changed your behaviour
>
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#143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02
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  Reporter:  ozborne   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 17
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by nb):

 I am in favor of an indefinite ban from channels ran by the IRC Support
 SIG.  This user has had issues numerous times in various channels.

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#143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02
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  Reporter:  ozborne   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 17
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by bjensen):

 This ticket is on the agenda for today's meeting at 18:00UTC in #fedora-
 meeting on Freenode.net

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#143: ban from #fedora, threaten by fenrus02
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  Reporter:  ozborne   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  closed
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 17
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:  fixed     |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Changes (by kevin):

 * resolution:   => fixed
 * status:  new => closed


Comment:

 This was discussed at our meeting last week.

 We are going to keep the ban in place for the f19 cycle and ask the user
 to consider their actions and come back after that with a new approach.

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