Plan for tomorrow's irc support sig meeting (2014-12-11)

[Kevin Fenzi]

Here's what I have for an agenda for tomorrow's (2014-12-11) meeting, 
which will be held at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net. 

Feel free to reply to this with additional topics, or bring them up in
the "open floor" section of the meeting.

#topic Week in review

#topic Open Floor

kevin

Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2014-12-11)

[Kevin Fenzi]

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#fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2014-12-11)
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Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:19 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-12-11/irc-support-si...
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Meeting summary
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* init process  (nirik, 17:00:20)

* Weeks in review  (nirik, 17:04:15)
  * LINK: http://sharkcz.livejournal.com/2534.html   (nirik, 17:09:46)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 17:14:38)

Meeting ended at 17:21:30 UTC.




Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (33)
* randomuser (10)
* adamw (8)
* EvilBob (4)
* zodbot (3)
* Sonar_Gal (2)
* N3LRX (1)
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17:00:19 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2014-12-11)
17:00:19 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 11 17:00:19 2014 UTC.  The
chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at
http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:19 <zodbot> Useful Commands:
#action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:20 <nirik>
#meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has
been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:20 <nirik> #topic init process
17:00:58 * EvilBob 17:01:12 * nirik will wait a few for folks to wander
in. 17:01:14 <nirik> morning EvilBob
17:01:19 * randomuser bums around
17:01:37 * nirik waves to randomuser
17:01:57 <randomuser> morning
17:02:02 <EvilBob> I'll be back in 5, something just came up with my
Son's online school. I have nothing for the open floor. 17:02:43
<nirik> k 17:04:15 <nirik> #topic Weeks in review
17:04:32 <nirik> Anyone have anything to note from the last few weeks?
Common bugs or issues? 17:04:39 <nirik> Seems like release day went
pretty well. 17:04:57 <randomuser> nothing really unexpected - normal
upgrade concerns 17:05:04 <nirik> yeah.
17:05:51 <nirik> There was a dhcp issue I saw several folks hit...
seems to be: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1154200
17:06:13 <nirik> (dhcp in f21 doesn't use the same identifier, so if
you have things locked to the identifer it won't get an ip) 17:06:54
<randomuser> interesting - I saw a similar bug but it was closed by the
reporter for unspecified site-specific stuff 17:07:37 <nirik> also,
there were some questions around the old install dvd, thats no longer
around. adamw wrote up a post on that:
https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/12/10/fedora-21-greatest-hits-non-serv...
17:08:01 <randomuser> nice 17:08:16 <nirik> all the rest of stuff I've
seen is pretty standard... 17:08:56 <randomuser> orionp has some
instantmirror thing that transparently grabs from a remote repo; I've
been thinking of reading up on it and maybe promoting it for folks that
want dvd repo style deployments 17:09:02 <EvilBob> I guess it's time to
move to CentOS until they do away with the DVD there also... 17:09:03
<N3LRX> The no more install dvd got me. I was looking for it but
couldn't find it. 17:09:34 <nirik> randomuser: there was another one
listed in that thread too... haven't looked at it tho 17:09:46 <nirik>
http://sharkcz.livejournal.com/2534.html 17:10:02 <adamw> nirik: the
fedup stuff in my blog i think may come up too 17:10:19 <adamw> nirik:
especially look out for that firewall-on-upgrade issue i edited into
the post a bit later 17:10:29 <nirik> yeah. is that on the fedup page
too? I've mostly been pointing people to the fedup wiki page 17:10:47
<adamw> maybe not, yet, i'll check and add it if so 17:11:27 <adamw>
oh, also, if you get people with lots of ext4 partitions saying the
installer's stuck early on, that may be
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170803 , it's nominated
for commonbugs but i didn't write it up yet 17:12:10 <randomuser>
cmurph wrote that up - I'm a bit confused why he didn't put it in
commonbugs yet 17:13:06 <nirik> didn't want to mess with arcane wiki
syntax? ;) 17:14:18 <nirik> anyhow. anything else off hand to note?
17:14:38 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 17:14:39 <adamw> nirik: hey, i made
commonbugs easier this cycle. templates! lovely templates! 17:14:50
<nirik> no tickets, so anything for open floor? 17:15:02 <nirik> most
likely we won't meet again until jan... since holidays are coming up.
17:15:06 <adamw> also a page with nice formatted instructions at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_bugs_instructions , instead of
instructions in the wikitext, which...i don't know why I didn't think
of that before. 17:15:10 <nirik> adamw: you and your templates!
17:15:17 <adamw> so, yeah, no excuses not to add stuff to the
commonbugs as it comes up, folks. ;) 17:15:29 <randomuser> anecdotally,
I'm a bit disappointed that so many people seem to think that
'developer focus' means they are excluded, and won't be able to
facebook or look at kitten pictures with Fedora anymore 17:15:34
<Sonar_Gal> morning 17:15:52 <nirik> randomuser: thats a weird/hard
message to get accross I guess. 17:15:55 <nirik> morning Sonar_Gal
17:16:11 <adamw> developers love kittens too. 17:16:15 <nirik> "we are
focusing on developers" "I'm not a developer, so it must be completely
useless to me" 17:16:52 <randomuser> it quickly turns into more of a
critique on society's marketing-driven behavior, so meh 17:16:53
<nirik> adamw: some of them perhaps. 17:17:24 * nirik isn't in
marketing. Use what you like and meets your needs. You almost always
have to try things to know, no marketing copy will always be right
17:17:31 <randomuser> indeed 17:20:00 <nirik> so, I guess next meeting
for jan 8th? Anyone have anything else before we close? 17:20:21
<EvilBob> Merry Christmas! 17:20:27 <Sonar_Gal> Nope that works for me
17:20:30 <nirik> also happy new year! ;) 17:21:28 <nirik> thanks for
coming everyone. 17:21:30 <nirik> #endmeeting