voting proposal mark 3

[Kevin Fenzi]

a) The sig controls/manages the following channels: 

#fedora
#fedora-social
#fedora-unregistered
#fedora-ops

b) Voting members are everyone who's an op in any of the managed
channels. 

c) New operators/voting members are nominated by any existing member,
who (after confirming the nominee is agreeable) files a ticket. Voting
members have 7 days to vote, majority vote determines outcome. 

d) Existing voting members can be removed in roughly the same way as
the process in c). Inactive members can be removed if their is a
majority vote to do so here. 

e) In other cases (aside from promoting/removing members),
broad consensus should be attempted first and if no clear consensus can
be reached a vote can be held on the issue or change. 

f) when and if other channels wish to join the sig, rules for that can
be added. 

g) The #fedora-ops channel is for coordinating between operators of the
other 3 channels. Operators in those 3 channels are welcome to join and
idle in #fedora-ops. Other folks can be allowed by nomination from an
op and a second from any other operator. Those not in the above 2
groups are welcome to join and discuss an issue or concern with the
other 3 channels, but will be asked to then depart after their issue or
concern is noted. 

kevin

[dr johnson]

hm.  perhaps i missed some minor detail, but this looks mostly like draft
#2.

+1



On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com&gt; wrote:

>  a) The sig controls/manages the following channels:
>
>  #fedora
>  #fedora-social
>  #fedora-unregistered
>  #fedora-ops
>
>  b) Voting members are everyone who's an op in any of the managed
>  channels.
>
>  c) New operators/voting members are nominated by any existing member,
>  who (after confirming the nominee is agreeable) files a ticket. Voting
>  members have 7 days to vote, majority vote determines outcome.
>
>  d) Existing voting members can be removed in roughly the same way as
>  the process in c). Inactive members can be removed if their is a
>  majority vote to do so here.
>
>  e) In other cases (aside from promoting/removing members),
>  broad consensus should be attempted first and if no clear consensus can
>  be reached a vote can be held on the issue or change.
>
>  f) when and if other channels wish to join the sig, rules for that can
>  be added.
>
>  g) The #fedora-ops channel is for coordinating between operators of the
>  other 3 channels. Operators in those 3 channels are welcome to join and
>  idle in #fedora-ops. Other folks can be allowed by nomination from an
>  op and a second from any other operator. Those not in the above 2
>  groups are welcome to join and discuss an issue or concern with the
>  other 3 channels, but will be asked to then depart after their issue or
>  concern is noted.
>
>  kevin
>
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[Randall Berry]

On 01/28/2012 09:03 PM, dr johnson wrote:
>  hm.  perhaps i missed some minor detail, but this looks mostly like
>  draft #2. 
>  
>  +1
>  
>  
>  
>  On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>  
>      a) The sig controls/manages the following channels:
>  
>      #fedora
>      #fedora-social
>      #fedora-unregistered
>      #fedora-ops
>  
>      b) Voting members are everyone who's an op in any of the managed
>      channels.
>  
>      c) New operators/voting members are nominated by any existing member,
>      who (after confirming the nominee is agreeable) files a ticket. Voting
>      members have 7 days to vote, majority vote determines outcome. 
I would like to see item c opened up so that anyone can nominate
including self nomination. If the nominations are closed to only
existing members/ops nominating new ops/members it will seem to be a
closed process. We don't need to be accused of running a tight clique or
good ol boy network.

>  
>      d) Existing voting members can be removed in roughly the same way as
>      the process in c). Inactive members can be removed if their is a
>      majority vote to do so here. 
Item d will take shape once item c is formed.

>  
>      e) In other cases (aside from promoting/removing members),
>      broad consensus should be attempted first and if no clear consensus can
>      be reached a vote can be held on the issue or change.
>  
>      f) when and if other channels wish to join the sig, rules for that can
>      be added.
>  
>      g) The #fedora-ops channel is for coordinating between operators of the
>      other 3 channels. Operators in those 3 channels are welcome to join and
>      idle in #fedora-ops. Other folks can be allowed by nomination from an
>      op and a second from any other operator. Those not in the above 2
>      groups are welcome to join and discuss an issue or concern with the
>      other 3 channels, but will be asked to then depart after their issue or
>      concern is noted.
>  
>      kevin 
Everything else seems to be taking shape nicely.

de Randy, N3LRX

Vote for Accepting a Modified Proposal #3

[Scott Glaser]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:44:10 -0500
Randall Berry <randyn3lrx(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 01/28/2012 09:03 PM, dr johnson wrote:
>  > hm.  perhaps i missed some minor detail, but this looks mostly like
>  > draft #2. 
>  > 
>  > +1
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com
>  > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>  > 
>  >     a) The sig controls/manages the following channels:
>  > 
>  >     #fedora
>  >     #fedora-social
>  >     #fedora-unregistered
>  >     #fedora-ops
>  > 
>  >     b) Voting members are everyone who's an op in any of the managed
>  >     channels.
>  > 
>  >     c) New operators/voting members are nominated by any existing
>  > member, who (after confirming the nominee is agreeable) files a
>  > ticket. Voting members have 7 days to vote, majority vote
>  > determines outcome.
>  
>  I would like to see item c opened up so that anyone can nominate
>  including self nomination. If the nominations are closed to only
>  existing members/ops nominating new ops/members it will seem to be a
>  closed process. We don't need to be accused of running a tight clique
>  or good ol boy network.
>  
>  > 
>  >     d) Existing voting members can be removed in roughly the same
>  > way as the process in c). Inactive members can be removed if their
>  > is a majority vote to do so here.
>  
>  Item d will take shape once item c is formed.
>  
>  > 
>  >     e) In other cases (aside from promoting/removing members),
>  >     broad consensus should be attempted first and if no clear
>  > consensus can be reached a vote can be held on the issue or change.
>  > 
>  >     f) when and if other channels wish to join the sig, rules for
>  > that can be added.
>  > 
>  >     g) The #fedora-ops channel is for coordinating between
>  > operators of the other 3 channels. Operators in those 3 channels
>  > are welcome to join and idle in #fedora-ops. Other folks can be
>  > allowed by nomination from an op and a second from any other
>  > operator. Those not in the above 2 groups are welcome to join and
>  > discuss an issue or concern with the other 3 channels, but will be
>  > asked to then depart after their issue or concern is noted.
>  > 
>  >     kevin
>  
>  Everything else seems to be taking shape nicely.
>  
>  de Randy, N3LRX
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All,

I like Proposal #3 even better after the update So I will say +1

Scott Glaser