Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:36 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:48 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>>> Since we're on the topic, I've also suggested on the "new
trademark
>>>> policy" wiki page[1], that rebranding should not be required in
>>>> case you hand out a presentation or demo in case of an ISV, if you
>>>> have built it upon Fedora and are simply handing it out to
>>>> attendees of your session (which kinda equals to limited
>>>> distribution, e.g. non-public). Same might apply to downstream
>>>> vendors distributing appliances (like VMWare used to distribute
>>>> .vmx files for some operating systems/distributions?)
>>>>
>>> This part I'm not so sure of. "Limited distribution" in an age
of
>>> convenient bit-moving doesn't mean a whole lot. Rather, we should be
>>> working on automation for rebranding that makes the whole operation
>>> easy
>>> for anyone that wants to do it -- so the requirement is less onerous.
>>>
>> Euh, right, "Limited distribution" is most definitely not the right
>> terminology, but I wouldn't want to force people (or ISVs for that
>> matter) that hand out Fedora media containing a demo or presentation,
>> to rebrand to the fullest because they add non-fedora content.
>> Replacing fedora-logos is reasonable, anything beyond makes them go
>> to other distributions to use or derive from.
>
> I think this *may* be fairly easy to solve in the Live image on USB
> case. The part of the file system outside the Live image is completely
> outside of what we call Fedora. Including presentation or demo material
> there doesn't affect the "Fedora-ness" of the Live image. I would
think
> that any claim it did would be a little strange, because that would
> affect anyone who uses a Live USB and decides to store some data in that
> external space. This is just a preliminary thought.
>
Presentations, yes. Video demo's, yes. Placing a file on the desktop
though is just as trivially impacting Fedora (eg. none at all) as
placing it on the medium. Just a thought.
Now I want to demo a failover cluster with FooApp failing over nice and
clean. Or, I want to pull someone from the audience and boot his/her
laptop to join a cluster (again FooApp). These demo's will be given all
over Europe maybe, at events, private training sessions (where students
take the CD/USB key home for further practice?), and partners and
distributors.
Just to clarify, this is what I had meant by using the word "demo" ;-)
Kind regards,
Heck... why limit to demos? It could be that someone releases an open
source Alfresco appliance for real use.
-- bk