Botond Botyanszki <boti(a)nxlog.org> writes:
2. Stance of RedHat in this effort.
It's nice that some folks at RedHat took the lead and organized this
lumberjack project. This makes people think that they (RedHat) are fully
supporting the standardization effort. Yet the following makes it pretty
questionable:
http://lwn.net/Articles/492125/
http://lwn.net/Articles/490690/
http://lwn.net/Articles/464276/
AFAIK the authors of journal both work for RedHat. Instead of striving
for standardization, they are writing code to be later forced upon
millions of users (including us) which perfectly despises the effort of
those individuals (including me) who took their time to participate and
discuss here.
Note, I haven't read the lwn articles yet, but I've been talking with
the systemd guys (Lennart in particular), and they showed interest in
normalizing their naming to something that would work for CEE too.
Even enhancing the journald to emit CEE-JSON payload was mentioned, and
on-and-off, I've been poking around the journal code to do just that
(sadly, I have very little time to do that, so nothing came out of it
yet).
They're not working *against* standardisation efforts. They work fast,
and don't want to wait on us. I don't see anything inherently wrong with
that, to be honest.
In any case, I've been lurking on their IRC channel, and talked with
some of them on occassion, I expect that this will continue, and in the
end, we'll end up being compatible both in goals, naming and structure.
They certainly showed interest in that, but at the time, we didn't have
a reasonable consensus, so they went with their own for the time being.
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