12:49 a.m.
On Feb 4, 2015, at 7:36 AM, Stephen Gallagher
<sgallagh(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2015, at 7:10 AM, Sudhir <sdharane(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was doing some comparison of Linux distro usage and I found below, though the
comparison is for websites, it might not be very surprising to see the same trend across
technologies other than websites.
>
> http://w3techs.com/technologies/comparison/os-fedora,os-ubuntu,os-debian
>
I sent my previous reply prior to reading that page carefully, so I suppose I should chime
in with noting that this is not representative necessarily of the developer case. This is
actually a *deployment* comparison, which is a very different thing. For a very long time,
a common sentiment has been "Fedora is not for servers". This was a statement
made repeatedly, not just by consumers of Fedora but by those who were developing it.
This has never been a fully true statement, but a very large amount of work had been
directed at Fedora's desktop usage and for a server it was largely relegated to
"good enough, but you should just use RHEL/CentOS downstream when deploying".
(It's interesting to note that they left RHEL and clones out of that comparison on
that site, which implies a certain level of bias in the reporting).
We now have revived Fedora's Server SIG to start changing this narrative and we are
building a number of new server-targeted technologies that we hope will bring more people
into using Fedora for this purpose. There's also Fedora Atomic, which promises to
become an excellent application container host and should be a very interesting deployment
strategy as well (alongside OpenShift Origin, in particular). So I am very hopeful that we
will be seeing a marked uptick in the use of Fedora on production deployments over the
next couple years.
> There is huge difference in terms of % usage between Fedora and
Debian.
>
> If we remove the free/non-free software availability and Gnome 3 argument, is there
anything that they are doing more as a community that we lack? which in-turn leading
developers to choose Debian/Ubuntu as their default working environment? While we are
looking at coming up with goals for Fedora, it might be a good revisit to focus on getting
the developers back on Fedora as their default developing environment. Just a thought.
This is already the primary stated goal of the Fedora Workstation. In Fedora 21, we made
a big push in this direction with the DevAssistant project, which we have been advertising
and getting excellent press coverage.
There are plenty of other developer-oriented features in the works, including Software
Collections (to address forward and backward compatibility) as well as exploration of the
use of containerized applications to simplify the differences between development and
deployment environments.
So from the outreach perspective, I think the best thing we can do is help gather
requirements for these new features and assist Marketing with advertising the ones we have
already delivered (like DevAssistant).
>
> Regards,
> Sudhir
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