"Rafael Garcia-Suarez" <rgarciasuarez(a)gmail.com> writes:
On 05/12/2007, Robin Norwood <rnorwood(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> o Most of our patches to 5.8.8 are either applied in 5.10.0, or fixed
> differently.
> - Many due to spot submitting all of them upstream when he
> did the package review. Spot rocks.
Submitting upstream rocks. I'd like more vendors to do this.
> - The others seem to be RH/Fedora specific, including the diddling we
> do with the path for the perlmodcompat stuff.
>
> o Speaking of the perlmodcompat stuff - is 5.10.0 a good time to get rid
> of it? Or we be kicking ourselves when 5.10.x is released and we need
> to rebuild everything?
What's the perlmodcompat stuff, if I may ask?
This is the business that creates the directories:
/usr/lib/perl5/{5.8.6,5.8.7,5.8.8}
So that rpms built for older releases will still work. It's kindof
nasty, but as I understand it, it was to prevent having to rebuilt all
the perl modules when perl does a point release. I think we can deal
with this a lot better from an infrastructure point of view than in the
old days...though a big red 'rebuild all of perl magically' button would
be nice.
> o A bunch of formerly CPAN modules have been moved into core.
Here's an
> incomplete list:
You'll get a full list from pod/perl5100delta.pod.
Oh, excellent.
[...]
> - shall we just do these as subpackages? Are there any that would be
> more appropriate leaving in the main perl package? I assume we'll
> want to keep the perl-core convention Requiring the new subpackages.
Except perl-version, which is really tied to the core, I assume you can
make them subpackages, if that would ease upgrading them separately.
Ok. I'll leave that in for now.
> o Some of the packages that we split into subpackages for 5.8.8
didn't
> change version in 5.10.0:
>
> perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.30
> perl-Test-Harness-2.56
> perl-CPAN-1.76
> perl-ExtUtils-Embed-1.26
> perl-Test-Simple-0.62
>
> This means that the release field for the 5.8.8 packages will be 31 (or
> whatever), while the release field for 5.10.0 will probably start at
> 1...meaning the 5.8.8 versions will win vercomp.
>
> How to fix it?
>
> - Start at whatever the last perl.5.8.8 release is + 1? (Yuck!)
Forget it: that could cause problems with intermediate perl upgrades
for 5.8.8 in maintenance branches (like, security fixes).
> - Epoch (double yuck!)
Epoch isn't nice, but works, it wouldn't dismiss it from the start.
> - Something smarter? (Smarter would be good)
Smarter means tricky. My two cents: you could produce those subpackages
with a Requires on perl-base >= 5.10.0 and a Conflicts on perl-base <
5.10.0. Not sure how upgraders (as yum) will cope with that though.
Eeeh. Tricky.
Yeah, epoch is probably the way to go.
-RN
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