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--- Comment #14 from Chris Weyl <cweyl(a)alumni.drew.edu> 2009-09-08 03:34:40 EDT
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(In reply to comment #13)
(In reply to comment #12)
> You claimed I'd done "actual harm" to Fedora
No I didn't, please read comment 4 again (I guess that's what you're
referring
to). But let's not get caught up with this or other word games.
I don't think anyone is playing word games here. I take it you're retracting
your claim?
> How about, instead of bashing, we sit down and try to work out
how to best do
> this
I have plenty on my plate so no thanks for now. But on a brief look,
FullyTestablePerl looks like a good idea that would pretty much eliminate my
concerns. And Stepan's suggestion at end of comment 9 (+ some real thought
from the packagers whether to ship the tests) would be an improvement in the
meantime.
Good. With perl now shipping /etc/rpm/macros.perl we have a good vehicle for
delivery of any helper macros.
> I'd like to see the evidence of any concrete harm done
specific to including
> the test suites in %_docdir, but I haven't seen any yet
The reasons given in comment 8 demonstrate why I think this stuff is harmful.
IMO it makes affected packages worse than they would be without those issues,
which I think qualifies this practice as harmful. You don't agree with it, but
the "evidence" is there, and one (very insignificant) manifestation of it is
this very bug. Dismissing it as handwaving, FUD or nonexistent is a bit
extreme.
If there's other "evidence", that is, something "actively
harmful", I'd
appreciate it if you could point it out, so I could at least own up to it and
fix it.
I think it's about time we let this bug rest in peace and
continue the
discussion in another more appropriate medium in case someone still has
something to say.
Fine by me :)
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