[Bug 701780] New: Fedora 15 release notes - minimum memory requires need to be updated

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Summary: Fedora 15 release notes - minimum memory requires need to be updated

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=701780

           Summary: Fedora 15 release notes - minimum memory requires need
                    to be updated
           Product: Fedora Documentation
           Version: devel
          Platform: Unspecified
        OS/Version: Unspecified
            Status: NEW
          Severity: unspecified
          Priority: unspecified
         Component: release-notes
        AssignedTo: relnotes(a)fedoraproject.org
        ReportedBy: jlaska(a)redhat.com
         QAContact: kwade(a)redhat.com
                CC: dlehman(a)redhat.com, nb(a)fedoraproject.org,
                    wb8rcr(a)arrl.net, oglesbyzm(a)gmail.com
    Classification: Fedora
      Story Points: ---


Description of problem:

The minimum system memory requirements listed in the Fedora 15 release notes
are far too low.  After some testing, Dave Lehman (of the anaconda-devel@
fame), discovered that the limits need to be adjusted according to his patch
against Fedora 15 anaconda (see
https://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2011-May/msg00012.html).

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Release_Notes/sect-Rel...

To summarize ...
 * the absolute minimum amount of memory needed for an installation on i386 or
x86_64 is 640 MiB.
 * 1152 MiB is the minimum required to install *without* a swap partition

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
 * Revision 14.98 Fri Apr 15 2011

Actual results:

   1.3.1. Processor and memory requirements for x86 Architectures
       <snip>
       Recommended for text-mode: 200 MHz Pentium Pro or better
       Recommended for graphical: 400 MHz Pentium Pro or better
       Minimum RAM for text-mode: 256 MiB
       Minimum RAM for graphical: 384 MiB
       Recommended RAM for graphical: 512 MiB 

   1.3.2. Processor and memory requirements for x86_64 architectures 
       Minimum RAM for text-mode: 256 MiB
       Minimum RAM for graphical: 384 MiB
       Recommended RAM for graphical: 512 MiB 

Expected results:

   1.3.1. Processor and memory requirements for x86 Architectures
       <snip>
       Recommended for text-mode: 200 MHz Pentium Pro or better
       Recommended for graphical: 400 MHz Pentium Pro or better
       Minimum RAM for graphical: 640 MiB
       Recommended RAM for graphical: 1152 MiB 

   1.3.2. Processor and memory requirements for x86_64 architectures 
       Minimum RAM for graphical: 640 MiB
       Recommended RAM for graphical: 1152 MiB 

Additional info:

 * cmdline installations may be able to proceed with less than 640Mib, but that
isn't exhaustively tested and cmdline mode in not an interactive installation
method.
 * 1152 MiB is the new recommended size since that is the minimum memory size
where you are able to install *without* requiring a swap partition.

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Zach Oglesby <oglesbyzm(a)gmail.com&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |ON_QA

--- Comment #1 from Zach Oglesby <oglesbyzm(a)gmail.com&gt; 2011-05-03 20:21:50 EDT ---
I have changed the requirements in the git repo (under the f15 branch) and
pushed the changes to transifex as well. 

Please let me know if anything else is needed.

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Zach Oglesby <oglesbyzm(a)gmail.com&gt; changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|ON_QA                       |CLOSED
         Resolution|                            |DUPLICATE
        Last Closed|                            |2011-05-03 20:43:52

--- Comment #2 from Zach Oglesby <oglesbyzm(a)gmail.com&gt; 2011-05-03 20:43:52 EDT ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 699770 ***

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Steve Tyler <stephent98(a)hotmail.com&gt; changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Steve Tyler <stephent98(a)hotmail.com&gt; 2011-05-03 21:10:43 EDT
---
(In reply to comment #0)
>  Description of problem: 
To put it bluntly
Anaconda is a very fat snake

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--- Comment #4 from James Laska <jlaska(a)redhat.com&gt; 2011-05-04 08:13:50 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #1)
>  I have changed the requirements in the git repo (under the f15
> branch) and
>  pushed the changes to transifex as well. 
>  
>  Please let me know if anything else is needed. 
Excellent, thanks Zach

(In reply to comment #3)
>  (In reply to comment #0)
>  > Description of problem:
>  
>  To put it bluntly
>  Anaconda is a very fat snake 
Heh, if only it was the sole component involved.  I think the trouble is there
are so many components, and different combinations of how/when they are used
together.  Such as X, lvm, gtk, device-mapper etc...

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--- Comment #5 from Steve Tyler <stephent98(a)hotmail.com&gt; 2011-05-04 09:12:16 EDT
---
(In reply to comment #4)
...
>  > To put it bluntly
>  > Anaconda is a very fat snake
>  
>  Heh, if only it was the sole component involved.  I think the trouble is there
>  are so many components, and different combinations of how/when they are used
>  together.  Such as X, lvm, gtk, device-mapper etc... 
You are right. I was using "anaconda" generically. If you run "top"
from the
installer shell console during package installation, you will see that
"anaconda", the process, swaps itself out very nicely. Then along comes
selinux-policy-targeted:

Bug 633807 - semodule memory usage causes install failures on minimally
configured VMs

time series plot of memory and swap usage during minimal install
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=448057

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