[Bug 472919] New: Listing languages for release notes

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Summary: Listing languages for release notes

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           Summary: Listing languages for release notes
           Product: Fedora Documentation
           Version: devel
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: medium
          Priority: medium
         Component: release-notes
        AssignedTo: relnotes(a)fedoraproject.org
        ReportedBy: scmuser(a)gmail.com
         QAContact: kwade(a)redhat.com
    Classification: Fedora


Description of problem:
The release notes available in various languages are listed in abbrevation
instead of full language names here,
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/

For a novice, no techy user, these abbrevations is very very confusing and
barely helpful. 

I'd suggest a list like,
Italian (it)
Spanish (es)
US English (en_US)
...
...


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Fedora 10 Release notes

How reproducible:
Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Click on the link http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/
2.
3.

Actual results:
Abbrevations that don't make any sense to non techy users.

Expected results:
Language name and it's abbrevation


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--- Comment #1 from Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;  2008-11-29 13:26:21 EDT
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I used to spell these language names out in their native language and, if I
recall correctly, it was criticized as a bug because the names would generate
erroneous "missing character" boxes for people without the required fonts
installed.  It would be wrong, in my opinion, to either spell these out in
English only, or to spell out only those names we can represent with a Latin
character set.

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--- Comment #2 from Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;  2008-11-29 13:30:41 EDT
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*** Bug 473323 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #3 from Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;  2008-12-01 14:17:31 EDT ---
So ... is there a good solution?  What about:

Native_lang (English_ver, short_code)

For example:

Español (Spanish, es)

Of course, now the hard part is getting the native language characters and
spelling all worked out.  Perhaps we can have a single wiki page that has all
of this for reference and future use?

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--- Comment #4 from Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com&gt;  2008-12-04 21:53:57 EDT
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Pulling the list from gdm should be simple enough. By default on the desktop,
we install fonts for most character sets.

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--- Comment #5 from Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;  2008-12-06 01:02:49 EDT ---
Sorry, I've been crawling through the gdm files and cannot find one that
specifically has the language name in the native character set and language. 
The closest I've seen is 'Login Window' in all languages:

/usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gdm-simple-greeter.desktop

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--- Comment #6 from Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com&gt;  2008-12-08 10:36:07 EDT
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Oh, fun. It generates them on the fly now. In F-8 and earlier, it was in
gui/gdmlanguages.c

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--- Comment #7 from Jason Taylor <jmtaylor90(a)gmail.com&gt;  2008-12-16 09:34:35 EDT
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Can we just reference a wiki page with the information?

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--- Comment #8 from Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;  2008-12-16 14:45:55 EDT ---
Sorry, I haven't been updating the bug with the status.  I got most of this
done, it is live here:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/

I was leaving this open while discussing (via f-websites-l) how to present that
information better.  But the essence of this bug is finished, what's there is
good enough, time to move on. :)

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