while it is not a complete tree i think we should move the rawhide tree to the fedora 12 location. it would be great if we could get some hercules images based on it. We can then work to try get F-13 and F-14 started
I want to make sure that for all arches we release F-14 in the same month as the primary arch is released.
There is plenty for people to do to get things moving forward. adding s390 31 bit builds has slowed things down.
I also wonder if we shouldn't make a 31 bit installer and kernel for fedora. or is there really no demand for it?
Dennis
Am 17.05.2010 17:29, schrieb Dennis Gilmore:
while it is not a complete tree i think we should move the rawhide tree to the fedora 12 location. it would be great if we could get some hercules images based on it. We can then work to try get F-13 and F-14 started
I want to make sure that for all arches we release F-14 in the same month as the primary arch is released.
There is plenty for people to do to get things moving forward. adding s390 31 bit builds has slowed things down.
I also wonder if we shouldn't make a 31 bit installer and kernel for fedora. or is there really no demand for it?
Dennis
Phil created the last hercules images, F-11 afaik. Maybe he's got some time to update them to F-12.
The big question atm is if we really should try to get an installable F-13. There's still a lot of work to do, a rough estimate is 1 - 1/2 months and then we'd play catch-up again with F-14. Phil and I talked about it in the office today and we agreed that it might be a good idea to start rebuilding Rawhide as soon as possible even if this means that we'd have to rebuild a package twice to fix SONAME problems.
I don't think that we need a 31bit installer, the latest 31bit-only s390 hardware is already several years old.
Karsten
Karsten Hopp píše v Po 17. 05. 2010 v 18:03 +0200:
Am 17.05.2010 17:29, schrieb Dennis Gilmore:
while it is not a complete tree i think we should move the rawhide tree to the fedora 12 location. it would be great if we could get some hercules images based on it. We can then work to try get F-13 and F-14 started
I want to make sure that for all arches we release F-14 in the same month as the primary arch is released.
There is plenty for people to do to get things moving forward. adding s390 31 bit builds has slowed things down.
I also wonder if we shouldn't make a 31 bit installer and kernel for fedora. or is there really no demand for it?
Dennis
Phil created the last hercules images, F-11 afaik. Maybe he's got some time to update them to F-12.
I will try to update the Phil's image to F-12 during the next few days. If I remember there were some obstacles, but my own image is F-12 based, so I should be able to resolve them again.
The big question atm is if we really should try to get an installable F-13. There's still a lot of work to do, a rough estimate is 1 - 1/2 months and then we'd play catch-up again with F-14. Phil and I talked about it in the office today and we agreed that it might be a good idea to start rebuilding Rawhide as soon as possible even if this means that we'd have to rebuild a package twice to fix SONAME problems.
I agree that we should jump directly to rawhide. Otherwise we would be always only trying to catch the state of primary arches.
I don't think that we need a 31bit installer, the latest 31bit-only s390 hardware is already several years old.
On the other hand, the kernel and the userspace are built to run only on z9 or better (z10) hardware, so having an option for users of eg. z900 makes sense. Even if it would be presented with a root filesystem image in the first phase.
Dan
On Monday 17 May 2010 11:03:57 am Karsten Hopp wrote:
Am 17.05.2010 17:29, schrieb Dennis Gilmore:
while it is not a complete tree i think we should move the rawhide tree to the fedora 12 location. it would be great if we could get some hercules images based on it. We can then work to try get F-13 and F-14 started
I want to make sure that for all arches we release F-14 in the same month as the primary arch is released.
There is plenty for people to do to get things moving forward. adding s390 31 bit builds has slowed things down.
I also wonder if we shouldn't make a 31 bit installer and kernel for fedora. or is there really no demand for it?
Dennis
Phil created the last hercules images, F-11 afaik. Maybe he's got some time to update them to F-12.
The big question atm is if we really should try to get an installable F-13. There's still a lot of work to do, a rough estimate is 1 - 1/2 months and then we'd play catch-up again with F-14. Phil and I talked about it in the office today and we agreed that it might be a good idea to start rebuilding Rawhide as soon as possible even if this means that we'd have to rebuild a package twice to fix SONAME problems.
alot of F-13 and F-14 can be done in parallel, if we can get F-13 done in the next 3 months i think its worth it. We will likely release F-12 sparc when F-13 primary is released. ideally they happen at the same time.
I don't think that we need a 31bit installer, the latest 31bit-only s390 hardware is already several years old.
sure but as a community if there are people with the hardware who want something newer we can provide it. I guess we can see if there is any demand
Dennis
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