OpenMPI stack in danger (Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers)

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

Hi!

On Monday, 25 November 2019 at 10:52, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>  The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
>  are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
>  that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
>  
>  Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the affected
>  packages or a package that depends on one. Please adopt the affected package or
>  retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies, otherwise your
>  package will be retired when the affected package gets retired.
>  
>  Request package ownership via releng issues:
>  https://pagure.io/releng/issues
>  
>  Full report available at:
>  https://churchyard.fedorapeople.org/orphans-2019-11-25.txt
>  grep it for your FAS username and follow the dependency chain. 
To save time looking this up, I want to direct the attention of pmix and
openmpi maintainers (Cc'd) to this chain:

munge (orphaned) -> pmix -> openmpi

In short, anything that depends on openmpi is at risk of being retired.
 
>              Package                      (co)maintainers          
> Status Change
>  ================================================================================
[...]
>  munge                             orphan                           1
> weeks ago 
[...]

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[Ankur Sinha]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 11:38:42 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
>  Hi!
>  
>  <snip>
>  
>  To save time looking this up, I want to direct the attention of pmix and
>  openmpi maintainers (Cc'd) to this chain:
>  
>  munge (orphaned) -> pmix -> openmpi
>  
>  In short, anything that depends on openmpi is at risk of being retired. 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pmix says it's owned by pkfed at the
moment. So is this sorted? Otherwise I can take it up to keep it alive
(and the NeuroFedora team can help maintain it).

Should we perhaps have a FAS packager group for scitech too, so we can
help maintain packages as a team? Would that help? We do this for the
NeuroSIG[1] and it works quote well.

[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/group/neuro-sig

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[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

On Monday, 25 November 2019 at 12:45, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>  On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 11:38:42 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann'
> Mierzejewski wrote:
>  > Hi!
>  > 
>  > <snip>
>  > 
>  > To save time looking this up, I want to direct the attention of pmix and
>  > openmpi maintainers (Cc'd) to this chain:
>  > 
>  > munge (orphaned) -> pmix -> openmpi
>  > 
>  > In short, anything that depends on openmpi is at risk of being retired.
>  
>  https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pmix says it's owned by pkfed at the
>  moment. So is this sorted? Otherwise I can take it up to keep it alive
>  (and the NeuroFedora team can help maintain it). 
No. pmix is not orphaned, but munge is. I checked upstream and the last
release is over 2 years old, but the last commit at github is from May
this year, so it looks like upstream is still alive. I don't have time
to take up yet another package, though.

>  Should we perhaps have a FAS packager group for scitech too, so we
> can
>  help maintain packages as a team? Would that help? We do this for the
>  NeuroSIG[1] and it works quote well. 
Yes, it's a good idea. Would you be willing to take care of that?

Regards,
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Taking over munge; use scitech group on FAS to share package maintenance tasks? (Re: Re: OpenMPI stack in danger)

[Ankur Sinha]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 13:26:20 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
>  On Monday, 25 November 2019 at 12:45, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>  > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 11:38:42 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
>  > > Hi!
>  > > 
>  > > <snip>
>  > > 
>  > > To save time looking this up, I want to direct the attention of pmix and
>  > > openmpi maintainers (Cc'd) to this chain:
>  > > 
>  > > munge (orphaned) -> pmix -> openmpi
>  > > 
>  > > In short, anything that depends on openmpi is at risk of being retired.
>  > 
>  > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pmix says it's owned by pkfed at the
>  > moment. So is this sorted? Otherwise I can take it up to keep it alive
>  > (and the NeuroFedora team can help maintain it).
>  
>  No. pmix is not orphaned, but munge is. I checked upstream and the last
>  release is over 2 years old, but the last commit at github is from May
>  this year, so it looks like upstream is still alive. I don't have time
>  to take up yet another package, though. 
Ugh, Sorry! I read that wrong XD

I've requested ownership of `munge` now:
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9052

>  > Should we perhaps have a FAS packager group for scitech too, so
> we can
>  > help maintain packages as a team? Would that help? We do this for the
>  > NeuroSIG[1] and it works quote well.
>  
>  Yes, it's a good idea. Would you be willing to take care of that? 
Sure---if everyone is aboard this plan (Cc'd orion, who is the owner of
the group), how should we do this? There's a FAS group for scitech
already.  Is this being used for anything currently? If not, we can
clean this out and request that it be converted to a packager group.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/members/scitech/

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Taking over munge; use scitech group on FAS to share package maintenance tasks? (Re: Re: OpenMPI stack in danger)

[Orion Poplawski]

On 11/25/19 5:50 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>  On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 13:26:20 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann'
> Mierzejewski wrote:
> > On Monday, 25 November 2019 at 12:45, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 11:38:42 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
> wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>> To save time looking this up, I want to direct the attention of pmix and
> >>> openmpi maintainers (Cc'd) to this chain:
> >>>
> >>> munge (orphaned) -> pmix -> openmpi
> >>>
> >>> In short, anything that depends on openmpi is at risk of being retired.
> >>
> >> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pmix says it's owned by pkfed at the
> >> moment. So is this sorted? Otherwise I can take it up to keep it alive
> >> (and the NeuroFedora team can help maintain it).
> >
> > No. pmix is not orphaned, but munge is. I checked upstream and the last
> > release is over 2 years old, but the last commit at github is from May
> > this year, so it looks like upstream is still alive. I don't have time
> > to take up yet another package, though.
>  
>  Ugh, Sorry! I read that wrong XD
>  
>  I've requested ownership of `munge` now:
>  https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9052
>  
> >> Should we perhaps have a FAS packager group for scitech too, so we can
> >> help maintain packages as a team? Would that help? We do this for the
> >> NeuroSIG[1] and it works quote well.
> >
> > Yes, it's a good idea. Would you be willing to take care of that?
>  
>  Sure---if everyone is aboard this plan (Cc'd orion, who is the owner of
>  the group), how should we do this? There's a FAS group for scitech
>  already.  Is this being used for anything currently? If not, we can
>  clean this out and request that it be converted to a packager group.
>  
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/members/scitech/ 
Currently it handles permissions for the scitech copr group.  I'm not 
sure why this would need to be cleaned out before converting to a 
package group.  I'd be happy to see it become a packager group.


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Taking over munge; use scitech group on FAS to share package maintenance tasks? (Re: Re: OpenMPI stack in danger)

[Ankur Sinha]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 07:29:39 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>  <snip>
>  > Sure---if everyone is aboard this plan (Cc'd orion, who is the owner of
>  > the group), how should we do this? There's a FAS group for scitech
>  > already.  Is this being used for anything currently? If not, we can
>  > clean this out and request that it be converted to a packager group.
>  > 
>  > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/members/scitech/
>  
>  Currently it handles permissions for the scitech copr group.  I'm not sure
>  why this would need to be cleaned out before converting to a package group. 
From what I understand, once the scitech FAS group turns into a packager
group, only folks that are in the packager group can also be part of
this one. So, if all current members are already packagers, we don't
need to do anything. If the current group has folks that are not in
packagers, they will either need to be sponsored there or removed from
the scitech group.

>  I'd be happy to see it become a packager group. 
Great, thanks. I filed an issue with infra here:
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8413

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Taking over munge; use scitech group on FAS to share package maintenance tasks?

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

On Monday, 25 November 2019 at 16:09, Ankur Sinha wrote:
[...]
>  From what I understand, once the scitech FAS group turns into a
> packager
>  group, only folks that are in the packager group can also be part of
>  this one. So, if all current members are already packagers, we don't
>  need to do anything. If the current group has folks that are not in
>  packagers, they will either need to be sponsored there or removed from
>  the scitech group.
>  
>  > I'd be happy to see it become a packager group.
>  
>  Great, thanks. I filed an issue with infra here:
>  https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8413 
Alright, so we have a new group called scitech_sig created. Any idea how
I can assign it as admin or committer of my packages? I tried doing that
for arpack and it won't show scitech_sig in the list of assignable
users.

Regards,
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Taking over munge; use scitech group on FAS to share package maintenance tasks?

[Ankur Sinha]

On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 12:31:04 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
>  Alright, so we have a new group called scitech_sig created. Any idea
> how
>  I can assign it as admin or committer of my packages? I tried doing that
>  for arpack and it won't show scitech_sig in the list of assignable
>  users. 
I think we need to wait until an ML is created and assigned to the group
too. @pingou said:

"That being said, you should not (must not) add this group to any
package before you create a bugzilla account for it (likely a private
mailing list) and set the email address of that account as being the
Mailing List."

https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8413#comment-614300

I'll set all that up once the ML has been created and announce these
changes.


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Taking over munge; use scitech group on FAS to share package maintenance tasks? (Re: Re: OpenMPI stack in danger)

[Ankur Sinha]

Hi everyone,

After all the setup etc. I seemed to have forgotten to add munge to the
scitech SIG's packages XD. I've done that now, and am working on
updating it to the latest release:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/munge/pull-request/2#

All our packages are here:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/group/scitech_sig

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