On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Jakub Hrozek <jhrozek(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On 8 Mar 2018, at 12:30, Fabiano Fidêncio <fidencio(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Jakub Hrozek <jhrozek(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 12:13, Fabiano Fidêncio <fidencio(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:00 PM, Jakub Hrozek <jhrozek(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 10:33, Fabiano Fidêncio <fidencio(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> People,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've noticed that I'm getting a little bit lost with github
and the
>>>>> way SSSD has its tags organized there.
>>>>>
>>>>> As it may actually affect other people (and in case it does not,
let's
>>>>> just skip the following suggestion) ... I'd like to suggest the
>>>>> following tags to the project:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Accepted: We already have it;
>>>>>
>>>>> - Rejected: We already have it.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Tests needed: This one can either replace the "Changes
Requested"
>>>>> (in case it's split in a few different tags) or be used together
...
>>>>> but the idea is to identify that tests are missing from a PR without
>>>>> going through the whole discussions happening there;
>>>>
>>>> What do you propose would be the action after tests needed? Should it be
a follow up PR, a ticket for the project, a ticket for downstream..?
>>>>
>>>
>>> After the "Tests needed" tag is added the developer should either:
>>> - Write the tests upstream (considering that we have infra for that,
>>> which is not the case for all the PRs)
>>
>> Here I’m really worried that unless we have a ticket, this won’t happen. Look at
the “CI” milestone in pagure.. So I would say this case should result in Changes
requested, filing a ticket or asking downstream QE to write a test.
>
> Hmm. My original thought is that the PR wouldn't even be pushed
> without the tests (as it happened already with a few PRs) ... not that
> we'd push and leave the tag there.
So it would mean “the code looks good and will be pushed as long as you sort out tests
one way or another” ?
I do think so. But this is something that must be agreed between us (the team).
>
>>
>>>
>>>> - Provide a "link" of the related downstream tests that were
>>>> broken/were added passing
>>>>
>>>
>>> This makes sense, although I would argue this should already be default. But
if you don’t think so, we can try the tag and see how it goes.
>>
>> Hmm. Indeed. I guess we can postpone this at least for now and focus
>> on your "downstream tests passed" tag ... which would be a better
>> investment of time.
>> Agreed?
>
> Well, I don’t think the tests passed tag would come soon (as in, not this week, not
the next one). If you see a use-case for more tags, use them. But as Pavel said, I would
at least initially add a comment what do you want from the other part of the PR until we
find out how the process works best for us.
>
> I mean, I don’t want to impose my workflow on others. If you think it makes sense,
let’s try it. Worst thing, we stop using the tags and remove them..
>
>>
>>>
>>>> So, summing up, no ticket for the project, no ticket downstream ...
>>>> just making clear that the PR is stalled because "Tests are
needed".
>>>> Does that make sense?
>>>>
>>>>> My worry about not supplying tests along with PRs is that the tests
will never be supplied..at least not in upstream..
>>>>
>>>> I understand why you're worried and I agree with that. See the
answer
>>>> above and let me know if it fits your expectations.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Depends on (or something similar): This one can either replace
the
>>>>>> "Changes Requested" (in case it's split in a few
different tags) or be
>>>>>> used together ... but the idea is to identify that we depend on
>>>>>> somework that still has to be done (either another PR, ticket or
>>>>>> something else that has to be implemented). Mind that I'm not
sure
>>>>>> whether we'd be able to simply add a field saying what the PR
depends
>>>>>> on …
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this makes sense. At least for a casual observer it would be
clear that there is no work needed on this PR.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Postponed/Deferred: We have something similar for 2.0, but
would be
>>>>>> nice to have a way to clearly see in which release we're
going to take
>>>>>> a look into a specific PR without having to dig in the
discussions.
>>>>>> Here we could also have 1.16.1, 1.16.2, 2.0, …
>>>>>
>>>>> Tags are cheap, we can even have a postponed/$version. I guess even
depends/$PR might be OK as long as we only had a handful of dependecies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Reworked: Although just removing the "Changes
Requested" label is
>>>>>> fine, maybe having a tag explicitly saying that something was
Reworked
>>>>>> would be a clean way to differentiate between new PRs and PRs
which
>>>>>> have been through a review already …
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t know how this tag would be used, could you give me an
example, please?
>>>>
>>>> I usually have no idea (just by a quick look on github) whether a PR
>>>> has been re-worked or it's a new PR that's never been reviewed.
>>>> My impression is that having the "Reworked" tag would make
simpler for
>>>> people to jump in and do a follow-up review on what has been addressed
>>>> in the first round(s) of review and then give their ACK instead of
>>>> just leaving it for the reviewer. Of course, the same can be achieved
>>>> without that tag ... so, it's just something that looks more
>>>> "organized" to me.
>>>
>>> OK, if this is something that was hitting you, maybe the tag might make
sense. But, then do you volunteer to maintain these tags? Because since I didn’t see this
as a problem, I’m afraid at least I wouldn’t maintain the tags.
>>
>> I do volunteer to maintain the tags, for sure.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the suggestion make sense? In case we have an agreement
about
>>>>>> this topic, may I re-tag our PRs and start using those new tags
from
>>>>>> new PRs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Another tag I was thinking of was “passes downstream tests”. With the
amount of time our downstream tests take, I’m not even sure how to integrate them with the
usual github flow like travis or centos CI use. So I was thinking about a bot that would
nightly scan PRs that have neither “pass” or “fail” tag, bundle those up in an RPM, run
the nightly tests and report back using a tag.
>>>>
>>>> I really like the idea!
>>>>
>>>> Another tag that may be added is something like "Urgent" for
PRs that
>>>> are *really* *needed* for some specific reason (downstream, release,
>>>> etc …)
>>>
>>> Umm, fine, but how would others find out the list of urgent PRs? Isn’t it
then easier to drop a mail to the list?
>>
>> Hmm. It may be easier to drop a mail to the list or even talk in our
>> weekly phone meeting.
>> So, yes, this one can be dropped.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Fabiano Fidêncio
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>>>> Let me know in case I was not able to answer all your questions.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> --
>>>> Fabiano Fidêncio
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