Remaining issues for the multi desktop DVD (was: Re: Dear Fedora board, please open your trac)

Jaroslav Reznik jreznik at redhat.com
Thu Jan 13 09:45:38 UTC 2011


On Wednesday, January 12, 2011 08:08:55 pm Máirín Duffy wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:54 -0500, seth vidal wrote:
> > "compromise our brand"? I think I'd like a lot more evidence to support
> > that claim than you've offered.
> > 
> > 1. I do not believe our brand is known for polish
> > 
> > 2. I do not believe that this will compromise anything.
> 
> Paul just posted this review excerpt on a couple of lists today:
> 
> "...[W]hat bowled me over first was not KDE -- it was the new Fedora
> website. Never have I seen such an outstanding presentation of free
> and open source software, or of an operating system, done so
> meticulously. Even if FOSS is not your cup of tea, it may succeed in
> wooing you."
>
> (from http://www.linuxforu.com/reviews/fedora-14%E2%80%
> 94im-smiling-about-laughlin/ )

And he liked our Plasma offering too :)

R.

> We may not be known for polish but there are folks including myself who
> have been working very hard to get us there release-by-release. The
> website redesign over the past 3 release has been the first major phase;
> the next phase is syslinux, installer, and firstboot polish. [1]
> Distributing media far & wide with a sloppy & unpolished menu screen as
> the very first thing you see when you try Fedora out would definitely be
> a step back in the midst of those efforts as it's introducing a new
> unpolished element at a time when we're actively trying to eradicate
> them.
> 
> > > The difference in opinions I think is because where some see a
> > > functional product that solves a technical problem, I see an
> > > embarrassingly, visibly flawed promotional item. Such distributed media
> > > primarily are promotional items IMHO. E.g., people have come up to me
> > > at show booths to tell me they 'collect' the media but don't actually
> > > use it as they download Fedora to install from our website.
> > 
> > "embarrassingly, visibly flawed" - I think that's a touch hyperbolic,
> > don't you?
> 
> I don't, otherwise I would not have written it. I did and still do
> acknowledge we've got some very different perspectives. Is a more
> aesthetic / polish-oriented perspective invalid, since it's the
> minority?
> 
> Put another way, if you paid for a professional designer to do this for
> you and they provided you a mockup that appears exactly as the menu
> appears today, would you feel you'd gotten good value for your money?
> 
> (I'd fire them.)
> 
> ~m
> 
> [1] See "Background" and "Strategy for the Installation User Experience"
> here
> http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/fedora-installation-user-experience-
> improvements-syslinux/
> 
> 
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