[Ambassadors] Just an idea...

Tue Aug 3 19:12:33 UTC 2010

2010/8/3 Michael Spahn <anyone90 at googlemail.com>

>  Am 03.08.2010 20:03, schrieb Mahmoud Abdul Jawad:
>
> using IRC is another good point.
> i think, we can use another channel, such #fedora-notifications that is
> just to submit such ones.
>
> Regards,
> Mahmoud Abul Jawad
> @meGenius
>
>  2010/8/3 Ryan Lewis <me at ryanlewis.net>
>
>> I agree, this is a great idea.
>>
>> I'm not even sure much work would be required other than getting the
>> proper existing software into the mix.
>>
>> For example, we could make sure the standard installs have xchat +
>> register them a nick on freenode, and then have it startup automagically and
>> join #fedora (this is all existing stuff).
>>
>> A simply (python) script could check for the latest fedora news and
>> provide a button to click to open firefox and go to the right url.
>>
>> -rhl
>>
>> 2010/8/3 Mahmoud Abdul Jawad <abduljawad.mahmoud at gmail.com>
>>
>>  in fact, what you said about the "web" part is the best option, however,
>>> creating a AIR or Titanium is really bad idea.
>>> a simple console based program can connect to the internet & get the
>>> updates, & post them to dbus notifications, here is a python example of how
>>> to use the dbus notifications:
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------
>>> import dbus
>>> bus = dbus.SessionBus()
>>> notifications = bus.get_object('org.freedesktop.Notifications',
>>> '/org/freedesktop/Notifications')
>>> interface = dbus.Interface(notifications,
>>> 'org.freedesktop.Notifications')
>>> id = 4856
>>> timeout = 2500
>>> interface.Notify('name',id,'','summary','body','','',timout)
>>> ----------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>  2010/8/3 Manuel Escudero <Jmlevick at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   2010/8/3 Ryan Lewis <me at ryanlewis.net>
>>>>
>>>>  I'd be willing to join such a project.
>>>>>
>>>>> -rhl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 08/03/2010 01:31 PM, Manuel Escudero wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So because of this, I came out with an idea, it's just an idea,
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> > know if you may consider it important and/or interesting:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Why don't we use a "second notification system" I mean, by example,
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> > can add to anaconda an additional step
>>>>>> > to let people create some kind of FAS account in order to win more
>>>>>> > "adepts" and also giving us the chance of notify
>>>>>> > them by e-mail or something like that when this kind of problems
>>>>>> > happen. (Of course, if they agree with that)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Or maybe a Fedora News Digest app integrated in all major desktop
>>>>>> > enviroments and activable only under users order...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Don't Know... Just an idea, any words to add?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > P.S. I contributed with my two cents by making a blog post
>>>>>> announcing
>>>>>> > the bug and also asked the "thisweekinlinux" guy to talk about it in
>>>>>> > his next video
>>>>>> > in order to let more users to be awared of the bug and able to fix
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> > he agreed by the way :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It has been suggested before.  It just requires someone to write such
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> app and convince the different teams to include it by default.   Are
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> willing to look into that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>  Well, I build Simple but functional webapps and webpages... I certanly
>>>> can build a web gadget with a feed parsing function so when you run the app
>>>> (or if you have it open) you recieve all the important Fedora News in the
>>>> moment they are generated, a "Notifier" to call it in some way. I can bring
>>>> it to the Desktop using technologies such as Adobe AIR (I know we have
>>>> problems with AIR because it's not free) But there is also Titanium, I never
>>>> used it but it's suposed to furfill the air's functions being opensource.
>>>> There is also another alternative: Mozilla Prism. We add this program to
>>>> fedora and somehow create a launcher for the webgadget in the O.S.
>>>>
>>>>  Also, if we're going to work with web gadgets I bet there's a PLASMA
>>>> WIDGET to serve as a notifier so there should be one similar app for Gnome
>>>> (Like a Screenlet or I don't Know) But the other Option can be to put these
>>>> apps for default opened in all major desktops, parsing the Fedora Feed. By
>>>> Fedora Feed i refer to any of the news feeds of the project, it can be the
>>>> Twitter Feed, one from blogger, Facebook, I don't Know (Or maybe we can
>>>> build a new one just for these cases, don't know, I'm just giving ideas)
>>>>
>>>>  That's the help I can offer, I only work with Web Code...
>>>>
>>>>
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>  As well we could offer a RSS Feed with the newest updates and another one
> with special notifications.
> Then we could subscribe by default the feeds in firefox or another RSS
> client of your choice.
> This would be easier than an application or flooding the freenode irc with
> unused registered accounts.
>
> Just my 2cents.
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I think we can Mix the Mahmoud dbus idea with the RSS Feed one...
I agree in not using IRC, well because my principal idea was based in the
use of RSS or ATOM feeds to build an app
(Just as you do to build a "feed-gadget" for your blog) and well also maybe
we can just reconfigure or build a RSS Client to
parse that Feed for the user and we can enable the autostart for this app in
future versions, by example we can do something
like the OpenSUSE idea: when you start opensuse in the live cd and after the
installation it shows a small window talking about
SUSE, Novell and KDE communities, then the user closes it and never appear
again. I think we can create the app and "enable"
this kind of idea, so the future versions of fedora can show an intro to the
O.S. and can also give information about the notifier, so the user
can choose to enable and configure it or not. it would be better if we can
do this in anaconda, being clear:

1) We build the app and include it in future versions

2) We ask the user during the installation process in anaconda if he/she
wants to enable the notifier.

3) If the user agree, We ask him/her to configure the options (For example,
what kind of news he/she wants to recieve)

4)Finishing the installation, the app starts if the user agreed to use it
and give him a "warm welcome" giving some tips for it's use.

This is just a "workaround" to it.

Also, If the app will need an account it can be IRC or FAS or whatever you
want to function but I think this is not necessary. If you like the IRC idea
we can use "built-in" IRC integration by adding something like a TAB that
connect into the Webchat Freenode IRC... Don't Know...

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