Starting the Talking Points for F22

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky znmeb at
Tue Apr 14 22:26:36 UTC 2015

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jzb at> wrote:
> On 04/14/2015 09:50 AM, Colin Walters wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015, at 09:41 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 08:31:49AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>>>> Here's what I'd say, lemme know if this sounds sane:
>>> [...]
>>>> So we've decided that while the technologies are maturing so rapidly,
>>>> it's better have a fast-moving remix or spin that gives users the
>>>> opportunity to use a Fedora-based Atomic Host and gives our developers
>>>> the ability to move fast and break things if needed."
>>> That works for me. Any volunteers for actually working on making
>> And to clarify, we're then backing out all of the Atomic bits in Fedora 22
>> mainline rel-eng such as the repository and cloud image, vagrant box,
>> and installer?
> No - the plan is still to deliver F22 Atomic, though it's non-blocking.
> But we will not be doing an "official" F23 Atomic.
> Best,
> jzb
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So then we need talking points for F22 "Atomic Cloud" that clearly
define the pieces and their roadmaps, right?


1. *Fedora* Atomic host and its release media / disk images / Vagrant boxes
2. Fedora 22 Docker image (which right now is a tarball and not
available on Docker Hub)
3. fedora-dockerfiles package

Personally, I'd make the Docker image on Docker Hub a final release
blocker, document the workflow for fedora-dockerfiles and Docker image
extensively as part of Workstation, which is indeed at least half of
how I spend my time on Workstation. I'd be happy to contribute what I
can from the OSJourno project.

I think the "pivot" moving Atomic out of the Fedora process is a
problem for developers, but given how fast Docker and Kubernetes are
moving it's unavoidable. My Atomic use case will be well-served by the
upcoming CentOS effort to make a CentOS Atomic that tracks RHEL

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