GNOME as the default desktop (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Minutes - 2010-12-06)

[Tim Burke]

  On 12/16/2010 07:38 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 18:56 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
>>> c'mon, Bill, that's needless snark. It's clear what Christoph meant: the
>>> desktop team has a lack of non-RH contributors.
>> Why is that a problem?  It's not.
> I didn't say it was. I just said that was what Christoph was talking
> about.
>
>> The fact that people cast aspersions or suspicions on a whim just
>> because of someone's employer is bullshit.
> That's not what Christoph was talking about either. Go back and read his
> email. He just made some points that it's pretty natural when a team
> involves a bunch of people from one employer, they will wind up
> communicating in non-public ways, and I think that's fairly true. It's
> not as if they're being malicious, it just...happens. It's hard to force
> yourself to write an email to a public list for everything if you know
> everyone else who's actively involved is within yelling distance. I know
> I have to stop myself doing it all the time, when I'm in an environment
> that makes it possible.
>
> Or, to quote Christoph exactly:
>
> "... because they work for Red Hat. Note that I'm not saying they are
> evil people, it's just in the nature of things they operate behind
> closed doors. It is so much easier to quickly go from one cube to the
> next to make a decision than having to bother with a committee, a
> mailing list or the many voices of the community."
Please, let's avoid the "we"/"they" focus.  The key point is that RH's 
desktop team is an integral part of Fedora.  All involved are primarily 
focusing on the same objective of making both Fedora and the respective 
open source components leading open source initiatives.  The RH desktop 
team can most certainly read this thread. No need to talk about a "them" 
as if "they" can't see this.  What is obviously needed here is more 
direct communication. We'll do that together.