Service enabled by default

Elad elad at
Mon Jun 6 12:50:11 UTC 2011

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:08:10 +0000,
>  "\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" <johannbg at> wrote:
>> I think it's time for the Gnome desktop team to revisit and review which
>> services are enabled by default on the livecd/usb and enable only those
>> that benefit the novice desktop end user.
>> Alot of services are enabled by default that are aimed at enterprise
>> users and to some extend enterprise hardware usages which would never be
>> used on a regular desktop/tablet/notebook pc like for example fcoe,
>> lldpad, iscsi, iscsid, mdmonitor etc. which administrators should enable
>> encase they use it in their enterprise environment.
>> A bit of discussion about this is happening in bug 707553
> For some of these, the issue is more about detecting the attached hardware
> and only enabling the services on install that are actually usable.
> When running as a live image, those services should be enabled so that
> they can use the hardware if it is present.
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Live media does not make sense for servers at all. When you install a
server, you want to control exactly what is going to be installed,
which is impossible with live media.
Furthermore, the default live media is the Desktop spin, which means -
it is for desktop! not servers! You can suggest a server spin if you

Most desktop users are not enterprise users, and enterprise users are
skilled enough to enable the services they need themselves or create
their own live media with the packages and configurations they need
for their environment.

I don't see any reason for starting these services. AFAIK the system
will boot properly without them on any hardware, so users who has such
hardware can simply run su -c 'systemctl start something.service', and
that's it.
What I mean is, that those services can be *installed* by default on
the live cd, but I see no reason for them to be *enabled* by default
on the live media or on an installation from the livecd.


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