frustrated with the state of linux accessibility

Bastien Nocera bnocera at
Thu Mar 19 11:34:49 UTC 2015


As Zbyszek commented, your best bet is to file bugs (preferably upstream)
against those applications which break accessibility.

We also have a number of changes planned to various parts of GNOME to make
it easier to start a screen reader during installation, or on existing

We've already made great strides in GNOME 3, where enabling accessibility features
doesn't require restarting applications or the desktop. That makes it easier
for users to use, and developers to test applications.

In short, file bugs. For GNOME at least, they will be fixed.


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> hi
> You know, that's a fantastic idea. For the most part though,
> accessibility just works. There are exceptions, but as long as you
> follow the gtk standards, like providing labels for custom widgets,
> making sure your button is really set as a button in gtk and doesn't
> just draw an image of a button on screen or similar, orca and similar
> just work. Gnome does have issues with unlabeled controls, mostly
> buttons, and duplicate controlls where orca will read a control twice,
> and it's usually the second instance of that control that's actually
> sensitive and actionable. But it definitely cannot hurt to have an
> accessibility rating for applications. There remain some serious
> issues in some toolkits, such as wxgtk. List boxes in linux are not
> presentable by orca. This is probably either a toolkit error or an
> orca one that can be solved. Qt works for the most part. I would like
> eventually, but am not holding my breath, for applications being run
> using wine to be usable by orca. This would require some kind of
> windows accessibility to linux accessibility translator or mapper.
> LIke I said, I want only to be equal among sighted people. I don't
> want special treatment. If you're designing a product or software,
> just consider accessibility. It isn't magic or a hard thing to do,
> it's just something that';s often not done by hardware and software
> manufacturers. That said, linux is much much better at this than
> windows, who leaves the blind people to their own devices when
> installing stuff. There are actually driver install programs that are
> inaccessible, so you can't even  read the thing that installs your
> hardware drivers. Linux's device model is different, and superior imo
> and doesn't require this
> Thanks for reading
> Kendell clark
> Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux

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