Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

Nils Philippsen nils at
Tue Sep 20 15:28:30 UTC 2011

On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 16:06 +0200, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> 2011/9/20 Nils Philippsen <nils at>:
> > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 13:53 +0200, Johannes Lips wrote:
> >> What's wrong with all that broken deps? Is this just a missing rebuild
> >> against opencv and other libs or what's the reason for all this
> >> "mess". I mean the release of F16 is not that far away and the amount
> >> of broken deps is quite big imho.
> >> I would be glad helping out if this is due to some orphaned packages.
> >
> > Some of these seem to be a case of "new library version was built and
> > pushed as an update without the rebuilds of dependent components". It
> > seems to be unclear who is responsible for the dependents to be rebuilt
> > and included in the same update as the library being updated. Currently
> > I only see mails of maintainers who plan updating the library, but the
> > rest of it pretty much depends on the maintainers of the depending
> > components rebuilding them quickly enough, and the original maintainer
> > to include them in the F-16 branched update.
> I'm the maintainer of opencv here.
> quick answear: I have no right to submit a bodhi update for packages I
> do not own. Given that I'm no in the provenpackager group.
> So as I cannot expect every single maintainers to respond in time, the
> consequence is that I depend on a provenpackager to do the whole task
> of "administrative rebuilt of dependent packages".
> Unfortunately it became a way more complicated task with the collapse
> of two bodhi tickets and others unexpected behaviour.

I wasn't picking on you, or anyone for what it's worth. It's just a
situation I've seen often enough so that I think it deserves some kind
of a solution, at least for the majority of cases where this shouldn't
be too much of a hassle.

With "responsible" I didn't mean that this person needs to do all of the
work either. Ordinary (non-proven-)packagers need to be part of the

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