livemedia-creator and the fedora build system [was Re: appliance-creator: how can I ...]

[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:13:15AM +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> BUT for some reason live CD builds have been added as this kind of
> sideways after-thought to Koji.  I guess that's because livecd-creator
> had to run as root and had to do all sorts of strange stuff with
> device nodes.  None of that is necessary once you've got
> virtualization, and indeed libguestfs proves we can build and run a
> complete VM during an ordinary Koji build, with no special permissions
> required.

Many of the Koji builders are actually virtualized themselves now, so if the
build process is planning to spin up a new VM, it needs to either be forced
to run on a hardware builder (because I really can't believe that the
install under full emulation will be a reasonable use of resources) or grow
a new ability to spin up a remote cloud instance. 

This discussion should probably be taken over to the Fedora Infrastructure
list. I'll start a new thread (because probably many people here aren't
subscribed to that list).

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Matthew Miller  ☁☁☁  Fedora Cloud Architect  ☁☁☁  <mattdm at fedoraproject.org>