replacing rsyslogd in minimal with journald [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

Matthew Miller mattdm at
Tue Oct 9 21:50:15 UTC 2012

On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 03:41:51PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > If you want audit-like semantics with crashing if we cannot write, then
> > use something else, not the journal. The journal is supposed to be
> > robust and do the right thing so that you can leave it unnatteneded and
> > whatever happens it didn't spill the disk or become unavailable. It's
> > supposed to be "zero maintainance".
> So in those cases rsyslog would be required, but would be seen as a
> post-install step.
> EG what you are looking at is building a GNOME-OS and for those sorts
> of tablets, etc the journal is right for that. The other cases like at
> a Hospital, trading firm or various .gov.XX then having rsyslog
> installed with audit post would be the way to get the needed features.

If so, this seems unfortunate, because the other features discussed (e.g.,
trustable metadata) would be very welcome in these environments. Can't the
enterprise have nice things?

Matthew Miller  ☁☁☁  Fedora Cloud Architect  ☁☁☁  <mattdm at>

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