Improving the Fedora boot experience

[drago01]

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
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> Am 12.03.2013 09:55, schrieb drago01:
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM, seth vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:18:33 -0500
>>> Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com> wrote:
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>>>> On 03/11/2013 04:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
>>>>> I want to encourage kids, teenagers, etc to explore the OS. We need
>>>>> them to be involved in CREATING and LEARNING. So I don't want to
>>>>> scare any of them off.
>>>>
>>>> My OLPC does not present any boot menu or prompt.
>>>
>>> That's not an argument for why we should not present one. It is an
>>> argument for why they should be.
>>
>> Sorry but that's nonsense. Pretty much all other operating systems do
>> not display the boot loader by default and you see this as a reason
>> for showing it?
>> What kind of weird logic is that? Or do you really think we can have
>> "we do show a screen that you won't care about most of the time on
>> every boot" as a selling point for fedora?
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> who cares about OTHER operating systems?

You can't develop an operating system while living under a rock you
have to look at what the competition does.

> if i would want their behavior i would install them

Strawman.

> are you guys booting the whole day your machines that
> save 2 seconds is woth any discussion?

Yes 2 seconds is a LONG time when your system is using an SSD.
Booting should be instant there is no reason why we should have to
wait before being able to use the system. (killing grub delay gets us
closer to that goal).

I'd say booting is a more common task then messing with bootloader
options so lets optimize for the former rather then the later.