Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

[Dan Mashal]

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:22 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
<johannbg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 01/30/2014 02:02 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:59:44 +0100
>> Johannes Lips <johannes.lips at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, but it's not only about money and a lot of contributors use
>>> their spare time to contribute, so I wouldn't stress this money thing
>>> too much.
>>>
>> I didn't introduce the money angle,
>> just putting into Common language,
>> what has been inferred.
>
>
> One would think that Red Hat's community sponsorship is not a "venture
> capital" or "Investment" sponsorship but that it is a community sponsorship
> as it so clearly states everywhere but apparently Red Hat looks at it that
> way that it "owns" the community.

I too often get this feeling.

If this is a "community sponsored project" and the community obviously
wants to keep things the way they are (leaving spins alone), then why
are various Red Hat employees constantly saying things like "Red Hat
is a business, and sponsors Gnome" and "My statements was directly
targeted at the often repeated attitude on this list which
seems to be that Red Hat should shut up and pay for whatever the given
poster think should be payed
for without having any expectations or requirements of the Fedora
community in return."

Enough of this! Nobody from the community is demanding anything from Red Hat.

Now, I'm not saying EVERYBODY from Red Hat has this attitude. But this
sentiment is OFTEN expressed.

To quote a Red Hatter which I believe has it absolutely right: "I
think dumping the spins is a very bad and dangerous idea for the whole
Fedora/RHEL ecosystem. This will only drive the contributors away, and
speaking of the KDE spin here, also a substantial user base."

In fact, why don't we take this to a vote instead of arguing about it
on this list? Why don't make this a Fedora elections issue?

Dan