systemd-219 issues with 22 and Rawhide composes

"J├│hann B. Gu├░mundsson" johannbg at
Thu Feb 26 15:37:29 UTC 2015

On 02/26/2015 02:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> really?
> why?
> how do you come to that weird conclusion?
> surely, one can say "not my package, not my problem" but that's 
> ignorant and needs no guidelines and policies - sanity should be enough 

I guess you did not grasp I was referring to the ownership model of 
components in the distribution which are irrelevant to guidelines and 

The fact is the distribution has been using the ownership model since 
it's interception which means one to one mapping from a component to an 

As such the thought process of "I take care of what I own has" been 
breed into maintainers for the past ten years.

There have been several cases where the community has explode due to 
"lack of communications" as an result of that with the most notorious of 
those being the Gnome half of the Red Hat's desktop team where more 
often than not they have broken bits for other *DE's that have been 
sharing underlying components in the distribution. ( search this lists 
archives if you need proof of that )

On top of that there are around 15k components in the distribution and 
expecting all maintainers to be able to keep tabs on all packager 
relations ( to their own or in general ) is ignant or expect them to 
does so for a single fedora-release rpm after the distribution has been 
split up again into core ( products ) and extra ( the inferior rest ) 
where the inevitale outcome is for those products eventually start 
shipping their own fedora release package...

If the PLL had thought though these thing thoroughly through he would 
have realized that.


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