KMail/Dovecot creating mail folder

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sunday, 7 July 2013, Timothy Murphy wrote:

> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> >> In my case the parent account is the top-level folder "alfred".
> >> When I right-click on this on my laptop and go to Manage Local
> >> Subscriptions
> >> I see "alfred" and "inbox" listed, but not "Spam".
> >> If I right-click on "alfred" and go to Serverside Subscriptions
> >> then "Spam" is listed (it is the only item).
> >>
> >> If I ssh to my server and run kmail there then I can see the Spam
> folder,
> >> I can add to or remove emails from it,
> >> and it is listed in Local Subscriptions.
>
> > I wouldn't attribute any special significance to that. Running Kmail on
> > the server is definitely not the way to manage IMAP folders, even if
> > they're on the same machine. IMAP folders are handled by the server code
> > (Dovecote in your case) and should normally only be manipulated through
> > IMAP protocol commands.
>
> Thanks as ever for your help.
>
> I set up KMail on the server to go through dovecot on the server.
> This seemed to work as expected.


Yes, that should work (assuming it's the same userid etc.)


> >> I have tried creating other folders, both on the laptop and on the
> >> server, and the outcome is always the same.
> >> I've also tried re-installing KMail.
>
> > Once again, if you're not doing this via IMAP commands to Dovecote, I
> have
> > no idea what the effect might be.
>
> Creating a KMail folder on the laptop
> does have the effect of adding the name
> to ~/Maildir/subscriptions on the server,
> so I assume it is going through dovecot.
>
> > The server's view of what it shows to
> > clients as "folders" may not even be directly related to file system
> > directories. It depends on how the server is implemented. If you're
> lucky,
> > it will sort of work, but I wouldn't count on it unless you rèally
> > understand Dovecote. Think of it as editing a database file without
> > involving the database handler.
>
> Well, I'll see if I can add a folder without involving KMail anywhere.
>
> > When I ran Evolution on the laptop, it saw the Spam folder.
>
> > On Evo you subscribe/unsubscribe to folders via a drop down menu under
> > Folders. That shows you all the folders the server knows about. I don't
> > know how this compares to Kmail.
>
> I didn't have to subscribe to the folder;
> it was already shown.
> By every test I've tried, the folder seems to be properly set up
> on the dovecot server.
> It's just that I don't see it on my laptop with KMail.
>
> I'm wondering now if KMail is not updating something.
> Could it have cached an old idea of the dovecot setup?
>

All I can suggest is that you look at it with a different client, such as
Tbird or Evo, and check if they'd can see the folders. If so, there's a
problem with Kmail (or you've missed some configuration option). If they
don't see the folders, the problem is at the server side, or your manual
folder creation is missing something.

poc
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