F22 blocker/freeze exception review: on-list? in-bug? special meeting?

[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 07:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/13/15 07:45, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 00:26 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > If, and I say if since I've not tested, this fixes the session 
> > > > restore issues of Plasma 5 then to me it is a *must* for F22 
> > > > release.
> > > Ditto.
> > Session restore doesn't seem like a great FE candidate, since 
> > people
> > don't usually use sessions on live images. Post-install issues like
> > that can be handled fine with updates; the update will be 
> > available as
> > a 0-day if karma'ed.
> 
> I suppose I may have mis-understood the question.  As I didn't read 
> this as being "live image" centric.

Basically, things that can't be fixed with updates are the prime
candidates for blocker/FE status. So, installer bugs, bugs that are
visible when booted live, and kernel/X/etc. showstoppers which would
prevent you getting an install done.

Issues that are apparent only after install *can* be blocker/FE bugs,
but there's a higher bar for it.

> I generally don't use/test the Live images all that much.  But, if 
> folks use the Live images as a way of deciding if they will use the 
> release and if the Live image supports logging out/in.....then I 
> still feel it is a must.

You *can* log out / log in on the live image, but it's not something
that's very commonly used, I don't think.

> One question.  Would a netinstall eliminate the need to install and 
> then update to get the fix?

A default netinstall would, yes - by default network installs use the
updates repository as a package source. You can disable it, but that
takes effort.

Immediately after installing from the live image the bug would be
present, but it'd be solved on the first update.
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