What do consumers wishing to use systemd in F14 need to do?

[Michał Piotrowski]

2010/9/16 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg at gmail.com>:
> No it wont.
>
> That seems to be general misconception in the community that it is. (
> otherwise systemd spin only would be created )
>
> If you want systemd you will need to upgrade to rawhide which I don't
> recommend until after alpha ( things usually have settled down around
> alpha ).
>
> Bear in mind that there is no certainty that systemd will be in F15
> FESCO ( and others) just assume it will be.
>
> Lennart may very well choose to delay systemd until F16 since the window
> of opportunity of having the necessary community resources dedicated to
> systemd has passed .
>
> The benefit of getting this in F14 was to get over the migration step so
> you could focus on optimisation/enhancements and integration with *DE
> and other stuff during the F15 cycle.
>
> The migration step has not been removed it just got delayed ( atleast )
> six months with less resources to spare.
>
> The Gnome Desktop team cant afford weeks of invasive introduction of new
> code resulting in broken rawhide during the F15 cycle if they are going
> to be successful migrating to Gnome3 ( which systemd does ).
>
> Our soldiers on the front  ( Fedora forum channels etc which often seem
> to get forgotten ) would only have to deal with systemd migration
> problems after F14 got released and then could focus directly on Gnome3
> migration problem after F15 got released instead of having to deal with
> both at the same time in F15 which puts a lot of strain on those resources.
>
> This is why I said it was unwise decision to reject this feature during
> this release cycle and I'm sure if FESCO bothered to do their due
> diligence and had done some research spoken to all parties involved then
> look at the options and weight them from wider community perspective
> their decision would not have been throwing this away because of some
> hypothetical bug encounters and some few missing docs ( that were being
> looked at ).
>
> Just my $0.02

I hope that this black scenario will never happen. People don't want
to wait a year for something that was at ours fingertips...

>
> JBG

Regards,
Michal