optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts

cornel panceac cpanceac at gmail.com
Sun Mar 20 20:06:16 UTC 2011


2011/3/20 Michał Piotrowski <mkkp4x4 at gmail.com>

> W dniu 20 marca 2011 20:54 użytkownik cornel panceac
> <cpanceac at gmail.com> napisał:
> >
> >
> > 2011/3/20 Genes MailLists <lists at sapience.com>
> >>
> >> On 03/20/2011 03:43 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > In a stable distribution such situation would not be possible because
> >> > of the whole testing procedures etc.
> >> >
> >> > But of course there should be a way to avoid such situation. I hope
> >> > that Lennart will find a good way to solve this problem soon.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>  Then make the variable timeout default to 30 secs - so worst case
> >> services get started and system runs ... individual services which
> >> actually require the pre-requisite - can change the timeout variable to
> >> demand pre-req is satisfied - of course even these will presumably fail
> >> (hopeflly gracefully).
> >>
> >>  So the answer seems to be implement a timeout for pre-requisites and
> >> default it to something sensible - ... fixup any upstart files as needed
> >> - since the systemd unit files are all new anyway - we should be fine
> >> with this.
> >>
> > although i understand the general idea about systemd, i believe that in
> > fedora's case there has to be a plan which says who starts when, and what
> > requires what. then, if thngs don't go that well, as it happened with
> this
> > rsyslog update, the plan can be imporved.
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> Unfortunately it is not so simple. For example we have a service
> After=syslog.target network.target
> and for some reason network configuration takes longer than 30 seconds
> so the service does not start when default timeout will be short and
> will cover all dependences.
>

what happens if you replace After= with Wants= ?
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