Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
johannbg at gmail.com
Tue Sep 24 19:55:44 UTC 2013
On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 06:35:46PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 09/24/2013 03:48 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 09:46:51AM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>>>> So from my point of view we wont be gathering reports from novices
>>>>> end users in 10 years time.
>>> This is a plain self-fulfilling prophecy. If you will manage to kill
>>> report gathering means then indeed you will have no reports; from novice
>>> users in particular.
>>> While bugzilla is far from perfect and it can be frustrating at times
>>> a "solution" you are pushing does not even start to pass a laugh test.
>> Let's run a simple query against bugzilla for bugs in the status NEW
>> ( as in not looked at ) and find out the oldest report from our
>> reporters for the soon to be EOL released F18 which should have the
>> longest time maintainers could have responded bugs filed by
>> The oldest bug was filed by Stef Walter <mailto:stefw at redhat.com>on
>> 2012-08-15 against binutils with total of 7205 bugs found. ( You can
>> multiple that number by half an hour at least of reporters time )
>> Now let's look at the gory details of EOL bugs closed wontfix running 
>> 8031 bugs found.
> Out of how many total bugs? Simply reported 8k bugs without a comparison
> tells us nothing.
> Considering that Fedora is roughly 120 months old, that's about 66 bugs
> per month closed. That out of how many packages? That's, roughly, less
> than 1 bug per package ever that's been closed as wontfix. (meaningless,
> but think about it)
That query was run against F17 which had our usually 13month run so I'm
not sure where you got your 120 months from...
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