workstation spin

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 8 Jun 2015 at 7:55, Peter Boy wrote:

Subject:        	Re: workstation spin
From:           	Peter Boy <pboy at barkhof.uni-bremen.de>
Date sent:      	Mon, 8 Jun 2015 07:55:21 +0200
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> > Am 07.06.2015 um 22:28 schrieb Amadeus W.M. <amadeus84 at verizon.net>:
> > 
> > Someone please enlighten me. What does the current workstation spin 
> > actually have to do with work? 
> > 
> > On a workstation one might want to do some development, C/C++, java, web, 
> > python, latex, modeling, engineering, whatever. One might want to have at 
> > least windows that come with minimization buttons already, to configure 
> > our own shortcuts. I mean, really, do I have to get/enable extensions 
> > just to get minimization/maximization buttons on my windows?
> 
> ….
> 
> > 
> > I know this will be classified as a rant, and there will be those who say 
> > "why don't you do it?". I don't mean to be negative, I just want to point 
> > out the need for an actual workstation spin, in the hope that someone in 
> > the steering committee would agree.
> > 
> 
> It might be qualified as rant, yes. That discussion is closed and in some way lost for those who try to use Fedora for real productive work.
> 
> And „workstation“ is not a spin but a kind of „product“ or „edition“ in contrast to server and cloud. You must not take it literally. „desktop“ might have been more appropriate
> 
> On the login screen you can switch to „Gnome Classic“ (the round symbol besides the login button) which gives you a desktop better for real work (the same as with the current enterprise line). With F22 the Classic desktop is quite ok, again, and easier to use as having to configure all that extension stuff by yourself.
> 
> At the end you may better switch to a „real“ spin, i.e. XFCE or KDE desktop. In particular, XFCE has obviously benefited greatly from the disappointment of Gnome 3 in recent years and has "grown up“. For me it's really become usable. The Gnome community is a lost case. 
> 

I agree that the latest option are less than I would like. I recently setup an 
machine using the workstation option. Did an rpm -qa afterwards, and it have 
over 1000 less things installed than my other systems that had been 
upgraded from versions where you could select things, and also add other 
things. 

What I did was to use rpm -qa  to get a list of all the packages on the other 
machines, and created a script with yum install (added the list) with 
--skip-broken

Gives a message about already installed and lasted for what is already 
installed, but did find a few things that where no longer available. 

I stated back when it was Red Hat 9, before the fedora came out, and liked 
using the DVD options, and then selecting more to install.

Also, didn't like the server option, since tried it on another machine, and it 
didn't install the graphical desktop?? 

Even doing an update you have to say nonproduction (?)

Perhaps there is an option to still do this, but the default download I got 
seemed to be very limited.




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