F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

Ronal B Morse ron at morsehouse.com
Mon May 4 23:43:00 UTC 2015


Forget it, Dan. It's Chinatown.

RBM
On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 08:07 +1000, Dan Irwin wrote:
> I find the attitude of many of the senior fedora people quite
> disappointing. There is no freedom, there is ZERO choice on this
> issue. It's a dictatorship.
> 
> 
> My observations are that the systemd people are not the best people
> for the job. In fact, they are probably at the complete other end of
> the spectrum. They don't appear to listen to users. They appear to
> focus their effort on starting laptop computers, while ignoring the
> majority of linux use cases.
> 
> 
> 
> systemd is not for servers. But apparently, it's not for embedded,
> mobile phone, or tablet either. In fact, systemd doesn't run on
> anything that doesn't run glibc. Now i know these are not relevant to
> fedora. Lately I have been questioning the relevance of fedora anyway.
> Mailing list volume has reduced to a trickle. Diminishing users. We
> really are only a beta for RHEL.
> 
> 
> Honestly, systemd is already irrelevant in the grand scheme of linux.
> It was a nice experiment, and has some great ideas. What was sold to
> us way back in 2010 is NOT what we have today. We were sold an init
> replacement. Instead, we have a madman taking over every aspect of the
> computer with lots of new, untested code, full of half baked ideas.
> 
> 
> It's not enterprise. And anyone who says it is clearly doesn't do
> enterprise linux for a living.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Tim <ignored_mailbox at yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>         Allegedly, on or about 03 May 2015, Marko Vojinovic sent:
>         > Oooh, I see, writing buggy and ill-documented code is
>         (ultimately)
>         > better for the market survival of the software company!
>         
>         Isn't that how Microsoft made their millions?
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