AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning

[Tim Flink]

Now that 0.7.0 has pretty much been released, it's time to start
thinking about 0.8.0. Kamil and I talked about this earlier today and
would like to get started on that sooner than later.

We'd like to do a phone conference again and the currently proposed
time is Thursday, December 1 at 13:30 UTC (05:30 PST, 08:30 EST, 14:30
CET). It's a little early for those of us who are in the US but it
seems like a fair compromise with the folks who are in or near Brno
time.

If you're interested and that time doesn't work for you, let us know
and we'll try to come up with a time that works for everyone. It would
pretty much need to be this week, though.

Tim

[Kamil Paral]

>  Now that 0.7.0 has pretty much been released, it's time to start
>  thinking about 0.8.0. Kamil and I talked about this earlier today and
>  would like to get started on that sooner than later.
>  
>  We'd like to do a phone conference again and the currently proposed
>  time is Thursday, December 1 at 13:30 UTC (05:30 PST, 08:30 EST,
>  14:30
>  CET). It's a little early for those of us who are in the US but it
>  seems like a fair compromise with the folks who are in or near Brno
>  time. 
Wow, this is really early for you. I have no problem moving it up to 16:00 UTC. That's
fine for both US and CZ. Unless twu or hongqing also wants to participate, then the first
time would be better.

[Josef Skladanka]

+1 from me, I have no problem with staying a bit late on Thursday (I'm ok with us
starting any time, up to 17.00 UTC), 5.30 PST seems like an crazy idea :D

----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Kamil Paral" <kparal(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  To: "AutoQA development" <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:57:29 AM
>  Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  
>  > Now that 0.7.0 has pretty much been released, it's time to start
>  > thinking about 0.8.0. Kamil and I talked about this earlier today
>  > and
>  > would like to get started on that sooner than later.
>  > 
>  > We'd like to do a phone conference again and the currently proposed
>  > time is Thursday, December 1 at 13:30 UTC (05:30 PST, 08:30 EST,
>  > 14:30
>  > CET). It's a little early for those of us who are in the US but it
>  > seems like a fair compromise with the folks who are in or near Brno
>  > time.
>  
>  Wow, this is really early for you. I have no problem moving it up to
>  16:00 UTC. That's fine for both US and CZ. Unless twu or hongqing
>  also wants to participate, then the first time would be better.
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[Martin Krizek]

I am fine with moving it a little bit as well. Perhaps up to 15:00 UTC?

----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Josef Skladanka" <jskladan(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  To: "AutoQA development" <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04:40 AM
>  Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  
>  +1 from me, I have no problem with staying a bit late on Thursday
>  (I'm ok with us starting any time, up to 17.00 UTC), 5.30 PST seems
>  like an crazy idea :D
>  
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Kamil Paral" <kparal(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > To: "AutoQA development" <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:57:29 AM
>  > Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  > 
>  > > Now that 0.7.0 has pretty much been released, it's time to start
>  > > thinking about 0.8.0. Kamil and I talked about this earlier today
>  > > and
>  > > would like to get started on that sooner than later.
>  > > 
>  > > We'd like to do a phone conference again and the currently
>  > > proposed
>  > > time is Thursday, December 1 at 13:30 UTC (05:30 PST, 08:30 EST,
>  > > 14:30
>  > > CET). It's a little early for those of us who are in the US but
>  > > it
>  > > seems like a fair compromise with the folks who are in or near
>  > > Brno
>  > > time.
>  > 
>  > Wow, this is really early for you. I have no problem moving it up
>  > to
>  > 16:00 UTC. That's fine for both US and CZ. Unless twu or hongqing
>  > also wants to participate, then the first time would be better.
>  > _______________________________________________
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>  > autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
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>  > 
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>

[Hongqing Yang]

That's OK, I think we will not attend the conference this time.
One thing that I concern is the ISO downloading.

Hongqing 

----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Martin Krizek" <mkrizek(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  To: "AutoQA development" <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:45:05 PM
>  Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  
>  I am fine with moving it a little bit as well. Perhaps up to 15:00
>  UTC?
>  
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Josef Skladanka" <jskladan(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > To: "AutoQA development" <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04:40 AM
>  > Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  > 
>  > +1 from me, I have no problem with staying a bit late on Thursday
>  > (I'm ok with us starting any time, up to 17.00 UTC), 5.30 PST seems
>  > like an crazy idea :D
>  > 
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > > From: "Kamil Paral" <kparal(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > > To: "AutoQA development" <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  > > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:57:29 AM
>  > > Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  > > 
>  > > > Now that 0.7.0 has pretty much been released, it's time to
>  > > > start
>  > > > thinking about 0.8.0. Kamil and I talked about this earlier
>  > > > today
>  > > > and
>  > > > would like to get started on that sooner than later.
>  > > > 
>  > > > We'd like to do a phone conference again and the currently
>  > > > proposed
>  > > > time is Thursday, December 1 at 13:30 UTC (05:30 PST, 08:30
>  > > > EST,
>  > > > 14:30
>  > > > CET). It's a little early for those of us who are in the US but
>  > > > it
>  > > > seems like a fair compromise with the folks who are in or near
>  > > > Brno
>  > > > time.
>  > > 
>  > > Wow, this is really early for you. I have no problem moving it up
>  > > to
>  > > 16:00 UTC. That's fine for both US and CZ. Unless twu or hongqing
>  > > also wants to participate, then the first time would be better.
>  > > _______________________________________________
>  > > autoqa-devel mailing list
>  > > autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  > > https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/autoqa-devel
>  > > 
>  > _______________________________________________
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>

[Hongqing Yang]

That is impossible for us to find a good time to held conference together.
see
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20111201&p...

----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Hongqing Yang" <hoyang(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  To: "AutoQA development" <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:00:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  
>  That's OK, I think we will not attend the conference this time.
>  One thing that I concern is the ISO downloading.
>  
>  Hongqing
>  
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Martin Krizek" <mkrizek(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > To: "AutoQA development" <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:45:05 PM
>  > Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  > 
>  > I am fine with moving it a little bit as well. Perhaps up to 15:00
>  > UTC?
>  > 
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > > From: "Josef Skladanka" <jskladan(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > > To: "AutoQA development" <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  > > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04:40 AM
>  > > Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  > > 
>  > > +1 from me, I have no problem with staying a bit late on Thursday
>  > > (I'm ok with us starting any time, up to 17.00 UTC), 5.30 PST
>  > > seems
>  > > like an crazy idea :D
>  > > 
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > > > From: "Kamil Paral" <kparal(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > > > To: "AutoQA development"
> <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:57:29 AM
>  > > > Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  > > > 
>  > > > > Now that 0.7.0 has pretty much been released, it's time to
>  > > > > start
>  > > > > thinking about 0.8.0. Kamil and I talked about this earlier
>  > > > > today
>  > > > > and
>  > > > > would like to get started on that sooner than later.
>  > > > > 
>  > > > > We'd like to do a phone conference again and the currently
>  > > > > proposed
>  > > > > time is Thursday, December 1 at 13:30 UTC (05:30 PST, 08:30
>  > > > > EST,
>  > > > > 14:30
>  > > > > CET). It's a little early for those of us who are in the US
>  > > > > but
>  > > > > it
>  > > > > seems like a fair compromise with the folks who are in or
>  > > > > near
>  > > > > Brno
>  > > > > time.
>  > > > 
>  > > > Wow, this is really early for you. I have no problem moving it
>  > > > up
>  > > > to
>  > > > 16:00 UTC. That's fine for both US and CZ. Unless twu or
>  > > > hongqing
>  > > > also wants to participate, then the first time would be better.
>  > > > _______________________________________________
>  > > > autoqa-devel mailing list
>  > > > autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  > > > https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/autoqa-devel
>  > > > 
>  > > _______________________________________________
>  > > autoqa-devel mailing list
>  > > autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  > > https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/autoqa-devel
>  > > 
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[Tim Flink]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:57:29 -0500 (EST)
Kamil Paral <kparal(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  > Now that 0.7.0 has pretty much been released, it's time to
> start
>  > thinking about 0.8.0. Kamil and I talked about this earlier today
>  > and would like to get started on that sooner than later.
>  > 
>  > We'd like to do a phone conference again and the currently proposed
>  > time is Thursday, December 1 at 13:30 UTC (05:30 PST, 08:30 EST,
>  > 14:30
>  > CET). It's a little early for those of us who are in the US but it
>  > seems like a fair compromise with the folks who are in or near Brno
>  > time.
>  
>  Wow, this is really early for you. I have no problem moving it up to
>  16:00 UTC. That's fine for both US and CZ. Unless twu or hongqing
>  also wants to participate, then the first time would be better. 
It's not that early, to be honest. I'm actually PST+1 so it would be
06:30 my time and I'm usually online by 07:00 local time anyways.

I'm all for setting a time that lets twu and hongqing participate. If
I'm the only US based participant, I'm OK with starting somewhere
around 07:00 UTC (08:00 CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST) or 08:00 UTC. I just
probably wouldn't be online quite as early on Friday :)

Tim

[Kamil Paral]

>  I'm all for setting a time that lets twu and hongqing
> participate. If
>  I'm the only US based participant, I'm OK with starting somewhere
>  around 07:00 UTC (08:00 CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST) 
The conference will be at 07:00 UTC so that twu and hongqing can join in. Tim will book
the room and send a zimbra invite with conference details.

[Tim Flink]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:39:53 -0700
Tim Flink <tflink(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  I'm all for setting a time that lets twu and hongqing
> participate. If
>  I'm the only US based participant, I'm OK with starting somewhere
>  around 07:00 UTC (08:00 CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST) or 08:00 UTC. I
>  just probably wouldn't be online quite as early on Friday :) 
Since I'm the only US based person who's replied thus far, we're going
to set the meeting time to Thursday, December 1 at 07:00 UTC (08:00
CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST).

I'm still working out the details of IRC room and teleconfrence logins.
Once I do, I'll send out the details here.

Tim

[Tim Flink]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:06:48 -0700
Tim Flink <tflink(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:39:53 -0700
>  Tim Flink <tflink(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > I'm all for setting a time that lets twu and hongqing participate.
>  > If I'm the only US based participant, I'm OK with starting somewhere
>  > around 07:00 UTC (08:00 CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST) or 08:00 UTC. I
>  > just probably wouldn't be online quite as early on Friday :)
>  
>  Since I'm the only US based person who's replied thus far, we're going
>  to set the meeting time to Thursday, December 1 at 07:00 UTC (08:00
>  CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST).
>  
>  I'm still working out the details of IRC room and teleconfrence
>  logins. Once I do, I'll send out the details here. 
It looks like #fedora-meeting is open from 07:00 - 08:00 UTC, so we'll
use that and I'm planning to put notes up on openetherpad [1].

I sent phone conference information to everyone who indicated interest.
If I missed you, let me know and I can send you the info.

Tim

[1] http://openetherpad.org/AutoQA-0-8-planning

[Hongqing Yang]

Tim, 

Have you sent it? pls forward me, Thanks.

Hongqing

----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Tim Flink" <tflink(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  To: autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 10:21:19 AM
>  Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  
>  On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:06:48 -0700
>  Tim Flink <tflink(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:39:53 -0700
>  > Tim Flink <tflink(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > 
>  > > I'm all for setting a time that lets twu and hongqing
>  > > participate.
>  > > If I'm the only US based participant, I'm OK with starting
>  > > somewhere
>  > > around 07:00 UTC (08:00 CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST) or 08:00 UTC.
>  > > I
>  > > just probably wouldn't be online quite as early on Friday :)
>  > 
>  > Since I'm the only US based person who's replied thus far, we're
>  > going
>  > to set the meeting time to Thursday, December 1 at 07:00 UTC (08:00
>  > CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST).
>  > 
>  > I'm still working out the details of IRC room and teleconfrence
>  > logins. Once I do, I'll send out the details here.
>  
>  It looks like #fedora-meeting is open from 07:00 - 08:00 UTC, so
>  we'll
>  use that and I'm planning to put notes up on openetherpad [1].
>  
>  I sent phone conference information to everyone who indicated
>  interest.
>  If I missed you, let me know and I can send you the info.
>  
>  Tim
>  
>  [1] http://openetherpad.org/AutoQA-0-8-planning
>  
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[Hongqing Yang]

sorry, I saw it in another filter.

----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Hongqing Yang" <hoyang(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  To: "AutoQA development" <autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 10:24:50 AM
>  Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  
>  Tim,
>  
>  Have you sent it? pls forward me, Thanks.
>  
>  Hongqing
>  
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Tim Flink" <tflink(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > To: autoqa-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  > Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 10:21:19 AM
>  > Subject: Re: AutoQA 0.8.0 Planning
>  > 
>  > On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:06:48 -0700
>  > Tim Flink <tflink(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > 
>  > > On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:39:53 -0700
>  > > Tim Flink <tflink(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > > I'm all for setting a time that lets twu and hongqing
>  > > > participate.
>  > > > If I'm the only US based participant, I'm OK with starting
>  > > > somewhere
>  > > > around 07:00 UTC (08:00 CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST) or 08:00
>  > > > UTC.
>  > > > I
>  > > > just probably wouldn't be online quite as early on Friday :)
>  > > 
>  > > Since I'm the only US based person who's replied thus far, we're
>  > > going
>  > > to set the meeting time to Thursday, December 1 at 07:00 UTC
>  > > (08:00
>  > > CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST).
>  > > 
>  > > I'm still working out the details of IRC room and teleconfrence
>  > > logins. Once I do, I'll send out the details here.
>  > 
>  > It looks like #fedora-meeting is open from 07:00 - 08:00 UTC, so
>  > we'll
>  > use that and I'm planning to put notes up on openetherpad [1].
>  > 
>  > I sent phone conference information to everyone who indicated
>  > interest.
>  > If I missed you, let me know and I can send you the info.
>  > 
>  > Tim
>  > 
>  > [1] http://openetherpad.org/AutoQA-0-8-planning
>  > 
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[Kamil Paral]

>  Since I'm the only US based person who's replied thus far,
> we're
>  going
>  to set the meeting time to Thursday, December 1 at 07:00 UTC (08:00
>  CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST). 
Tim hasn't arrived so the meeting has been canceled. I propose the new meeting time
for Monday, December 4 at 13:30 UTC or 14:00 UTC. Hongqing confirmed that this time suits
him (the first option is better). The rest of Brno team can join too.

[Tim Flink]

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 04:26:28 -0500 (EST)
Kamil Paral <kparal(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  > Since I'm the only US based person who's replied thus
> far, we're
>  > going
>  > to set the meeting time to Thursday, December 1 at 07:00 UTC (08:00
>  > CET, 15:00 CST, 23:00 PST).
>  
>  Tim hasn't arrived so the meeting has been canceled. I propose the
>  new meeting time for Monday, December 4 at 13:30 UTC or 14:00 UTC.
>  Hongqing confirmed that this time suits him (the first option is
>  better). The rest of Brno team can join too. 
Well, this is embarrassing. I can't believe that I fell asleep like
that - the time really wasn't that late. I'm sure that it'll be a while
before I live this down ...

Monday works for me, too. I apologize for the inconvenience of all this
- it won't happen again.

Tim

[Kamil Paral]

Here are the outcomes of the meeting:

http://openetherpad.org/ep/pad/view/AutoQA-0-8-planning/0ZNANJICeC

I'll update the trac tickets (probably tomorrow) and populate the 0.8 milestone.

People distribution:
* Tao and Hongqing will work on rats_install and mediakit_sanity, Tao will send hard_drive
test to autoqa-devel. After that is finished, Hongqing will work on updating test cases
for F17. I'm not sure about Tao. Tao, will you help Hongqing with that?
* I'll work on caching proxy and autoqa-results emails. (and maybe on limited support
for third-party tests, that's still unsure)
* Josef will work on resultsdb integration.
* Peter will work on resultsdb front-end.
* Tim will work on Remote installation proposal and GUI for f-e-k proposal.
* Martin will help Tim with GUI for f-e-k.

Do I have it correct? Feel free to correct it and add missing pieces.