Announcing EPEL-8.0 Release
by Stephen John Smoogen
The EPEL Steering Committee is pleased to announce that the initial
EPEL-8 is ready for release. We would like to thank everyone in the
community for helping us get the initial set of builds out to mirrors
and to consumers worldwide. Special thanks go to Patrick Uiterwijk,
Jeroen van Meeuwen, Robert Scheck, and many others in the community
who helped in the last 6 months to get this release done.
EPEL-8.0 has packages for the x86_64, ppc64le, aarch64, and now the
s390x platforms.
## What is EPEL?
EPEL stands for Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux and is a
subcommunity of the Fedora and CentOS projects aimed at bringing a
subset of packages out of Fedora releases ready to be used and
installed on various Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). It is not a
complete rebuild of Fedora or even of previous EPEL releases. EPEL is
also a community and not a product. As such we need community members
to help get packages into the repository more than done in Fedora.
If you are interested in getting a package into EPEL, contact the
package maintainer through bugzilla. This way the request can be
tracked, and if the primary maintainer is not interested in branching
to EPEL, others can step in and do so. Optionally you can send a
request to the epel-devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org mailing list. If you
do so, please include why the package is needed, to help other
volunteers decide whether they can support it.
## What is new?
### Playground for Rawhide like things
We have added an additional set of channels for EPEL-8 called
playground. It is similar to Fedora Rawhide so packagers can work on
versions of software that are too fast moving or will have large API
changes compared to versions in the regular channel.
To make this purpose transparent, when a package is built in epel8, it
will normally also be built in epel8-playground. This is done via a
packages.cfg file which lists the targets for fedpkg to build against.
A successful package build will then go through two different paths:
* epel8 package will go into bodhi to be put into epel8-testing
* epel8-playground will bypass bodhi and go directly into
epel8-playground the next compose.
If a packager needs to focus only on epel8 or epel8-playground they
can edit packages.cfg to change the target=epel8 epel8-playground to
target=epel8.
Packages in epel8-playground are intended to be used in the following manner:
* To test out a new version of the package that might not be stable yet.
* To test out new packaging of the package
* To test a major version change of the package intended for the next
EPEL-8 minor release.
* To build a package that will never be stable enough for EPEL-8, but
still could be useful to some.
At minor RHEL releases (ie, 8.1, 8.2) people can pull in big changes
from playground to the main EPEL-8 packages. Since people will be
upgrading and paying more attention than usual anyhow at those points,
it’s a great chance to do that change, but you can test beforehand in
the playground to make sure these changes work.
Consumers should be aware that packages in EPEL8-playground are
without any Service Level Expectations. You may want to only cherry
pick packages from the playground as needed.
### New Architecture: s390x
We have added the s390x platform to builds. Some consumers have wanted
this platform for many years but we did not have the time to integrate
necessary changes. We have done this with EPEL-8, and hope to be able
to do so for EPEL-7 if there are continued requests for it.
## What is next? (Why is it called EPEL-8.0?)
The goal for EPEL-8.1 will be implementing modules into the
repository, which allows builds for packages that depend on
non-shipped devel packages. It also allows maintainers to supplement
and replace other packages they could not under standard EPEL rules.
## Known Issues:
1. EPEL-8.0 does not come with modules. Packages built for perl,
python and other modules are only built against “default” modules. For
example installing a perl library from EPEL will work with the
perl-5.26 but not with the perl-5.24 module.
2. RHEL-8.0 and RHEL-8.1 beta do not come with the same packages in
all architectures. There are 720 ‘desktop’ packages which were only
shipped for x86_64 and ppc64le. Packagers looking to deliver GNOME,
KDE, or other platforms will need to exclude s390x and aarch64 at this
time.
3. The dnf in RHEL-8.1 beta does not work with the EPEL repository due
to zchunk code. This has been opened as an upstream bug as
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1719830
4. Until modularity and module builds are implemented in EPEL, there
will be many packages which can not be built for EPEL. This is mainly
due to RHEL-8 not shipping many -devel packages and the need for us to
rebuild those packages in a module to make those -devel available to
build against. When running into this please open a ticket with
https://pagure.io/epel/new_issue for us to put in a request for it to
be added to Red Hat’s Code Ready Builder. Please list the package(s)
which is blocked from being built because of its absence. We will
collate these items into bugzilla tickets which will be reviewed by
the Red Hat product groups to see if they will be added in future Code
Ready Builder releases. Doing this will ensure that we do not have 70
requests for foo-devel but can have one with all the packages needing
it.
5. /usr/bin/python does not exist in RHEL8. Developers should aim
towards /usr/bin/python3 or /usr/bin/python2 and patch appropriately.
Python2 packages are discouraged. RHEL-8 will contain python2.7 until
probably the end of life of RHEL-7. However support upstream will only
be minimal. When modularity occurs, we suggest that you make whatever
python2 packages modules which can be pulled out when RHEL-8.N no
longer has python2.
6. python2-sphinx is not shipped. Most packages should work with
python3-sphinx, and if it doesn’t please open a bug. The python team
has been good about making fixes for this.
7. When branching python packages, be aware that python in EL-8 is
python36 and not the version currently in rawhide. This has come up
with a couple of test packages where they assumed python37 or later.
8. While EL-8 comes with platform-python, it should NOT be used in
Requires: unless absolutely necessary. python3 should be used instead.
(Exceptions can be made but will be rare and need justification.)
* Accepted exception: Use python3.6dist(coverage) instead of
python3-coverage. This package is not shipped but is needed in %check
code.
10. Sometimes RHEL8 only has a python3 package for a dependency you
need for your build. (Example: python-bleach requires
python2-html5lib, but RHEL8 provides only python3-html5lib). For
EPEL-8.0 we recommend strongly to only focus on python3 subpackages..
11. RHEL-8 was built with packages which were not shipped. In general
it is OK to branch these packages and build them in EPEL.
12. systemd-rpm-macros is not a separate packages. If needed, used
BuildRequires: systemd
13. You will need to make sure you have a version of fedpkg greater
than fedpkg-1.37-4 to work with both `epel8` and `epel8-playground`.
Versions before that should work with just `epel8`.
## Developer requests for multiple branches
Branching is handled the same way as requesting a branch using fedpkg
request-branch. A maintainer can request an epel8 branch using fedpkg
request-branch epel8 which will create a ticket in
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issues and Release
Engineering will process these requests.
To branch multiple packages please use this or a variant of this script:
```
#!/usr/bin/sh
# Reminder to get an updated pagure token for releng tickets
# Usage: epel-8.sh package1 package2 package3 package4
if [ $# -lt 1 ]
then
echo "At least one package name should be provided"
else
TMPDIR=`mktemp -d /tmp/epel8.XXXXXX`
pushd "$TMPDIR"
for pkg in "$@"
do
fedpkg clone "$pkg"
pushd "$pkg"
fedpkg request-branch epel8
fedpkg request-branch epel8-playground
popd
done
rm -rfv "$TMPDIR"
fi
```
Releng will then work through the tickets in the system which is
adding branches to the PDC and src.fedoraproject.org.
## Known RHEL-8 packages missing -devel
* libblueray-devel
* liba52-devel
* libXvMC-devel
* libdvdnav-devel
* gfbgraph-devel
* libuv-devel
* rest-devel
* qgpgme-devel
## Definitions
* Package maintainer. Person who has accepted responsibility to
package and maintain software in the Fedora Project ecosystem. The
main packager is usually someone focused on Fedora Linux, and
secondary packagers may be focused on particular use cases like EPEL.
* Consumer. A person who has subscribed to EPEL for packages but is
not a maintainer.
* PDC. Product Definition Center. A tool to help list the lifetime and
permissions that a product has so that branching and updates can be
better managed.
--
Stephen J Smoogen.
4 years, 3 months
EPEL-8 appearing on dl.fedoraproject.org (not an announcement)
by Stephen John Smoogen
So I was hoping that I would have 24 hours to finish writing my
announcements.. but I found out that mirrormanager works better than I
thought. Packages for an initial EPEL-8.0 are beginning to appear on the
mirrors. That said they are in the 'I have built these and need people to
test things' stage versus the 'please put these in your production
environment stage'.
We will hopefully have things fully tested and ready by FLOCK next week.
--
Stephen J Smoogen.
4 years, 4 months
EPEL-8 package requests are now open
by Stephen John Smoogen
I would like to thank everyone for their patience and for the people who
have put in a lot of work to get us to where we can start building
packages. The following is a general outline of what we have for packaging
procedures for EPEL-8. The master document is currently at
https://hackmd.io/@ssmoogen/B1p2QM-eS It will be stored with other EPEL
documents shortly.
# EPEL-8 Packaging Procedures
## Introduction
When a new Red Hat Enterprise Linux occurs, one of the steps to get EPEL
going for it is branching of various packages into new namespace. The EPEL
Steering Committee does not mass branch all existing packages into the
namespace because it has caused multiple problems:
1. The package maintainers did not want to support the package in the newer
version of EPEL. Package maintainers may only want to support certain
versions of Enterprise Linux or may want to wait until their favourite
derivative appears.
2. The package does not work in the latest version of RHEL. With multiple
years between releases, software which worked on Fedora 18 which would
branch to EPEL-7 may not exist anymore with Fedora 28 and EPEL-8 would need
a completely different version.
## Consumer request for packages
People who are interested in getting packages into EPEL should contact the
package maintainer through [bugzilla](https://bugzilla.redhat.com/). This
allows for the requests to be tracked and if the primary maintainer is not
interested in branching to EPEL, other ones can step in and do so.
## EPEL Playground
We have added an additional set of channels for EPEL-8 called playground.
It is meant to be sort of like Fedora Rawhide so that packagers can work on
versions of software which are too fast moving or will have large API
changes from what they are putting in the regular channel.
To try and make this transparent, we have made it so when a package is
built in epel8 it will normally also be built in epel8-playground. This is
done via a packages.cfg file which lists the targets for fedpkg to build
against. A successful package build will then go through 2 different paths:
* epel8 package will go into bodhi to be put into epel8-testing
* epel8-playground will bypass bodhi and go directly into epel8-playground
the next compose.
If a packager needs to focus only on epel8 or epel8-playground they can
edit packages.cfg to change the ```target= epel8 epel8-playground``` to
```target= epel8 ```.
Packages in epel8-playground are primarily to be used in the following
manner:
* To test out some new version of the package that might not be stable yet.
* To test out some new packaging of the package
* To test a major version change of the package that they want to land at
the next epel8 minor release.
* To build a package that will never be stable enough for epel8, but still
could be useful to some.
* At minor RHEL releases (ie, 8.1, 8.2) people can pull in big changes from
playground to the main epel8 packages. Since people will be upgrading and
paying more attention than usual anyhow at those points, it’s a great
chance to do that change, but also you want to make sure it’s panned out,
so you can test before hand in playground.
Consumers should be aware that packages in EPEL8-playground are there
without any Service Level Expectations. You may want to only cherry pick
packages from there as needed.
## Developer request for branching multiple packages
Branching is handled the same way as requesting a branch using `fedpkg
request-branch`. A maintainer can request an epel8 branch using `fedpkg
request-branch epel8` which will create a ticket in
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issues and Release Engineering
will process these requests.
To branch multiple packages please use this or a variant of this script:
```
#!/usr/bin/sh
# Reminder to get an updated pagure token for releng tickets
# Usage: epel-8.sh foo bar goo blah blech
if [ $# -lt 1 ]
then
echo "At least one package name should be provided"
else
TMPDIR=`mktemp -d /tmp/epel8.XXXXXX`
pushd "$TMPDIR"
for pkg in "$@"
do
fedpkg clone "$pkg"
pushd "$pkg"
fedpkg request-branch epel8
fedpkg request-branch epel8-playground
popd
done
rm -rfv "$TMPDIR"
fi
```
Releng will then work through the tickets in the system which is adding
branches to the PDC and src.fedoraproject.org.
## Known Issues
1. /usr/bin/python does not exist. Choose ``/usr/bin/python3`` or
``/usr/bin/python2`` and patch appropriately.
2. ``python2-sphinx`` is not shipped. Most packages should work with
python3-sphinx, and if it doesn't please open a bug. The python team has
been good about making fixes for this.
3. When branching python packages, be aware that python in EL-8 is python36
and not the version currently in rawhide. This has come up with a couple of
test packages where they assumed python37 or later.
4. ``systemd-rpm-macros`` is not a separate packages. If needed, used
``BuildRequires: systemd``
5. While EL-8 comes with platform-python, it should NOT be used in
``Requires:`` unless absolutely neccessary. python3 should be used instead.
(Exceptions can be made but will be rare and need justification.)
**Accepted Exceptions:**
* Use python3.6dist(coverage) instead of python3-coverage. This package is
not shipped but is needed in %check code.
6. Sometimes RHEL8 only has a python3 package for a dependency you need for
your build. (Example: python-bleach requires python2-html5lib, but RHEL8
provides only python3-html5lib). For EPEL-8.0 we only suggest one choice:
* Choose not to have the python2 part of your package and patch whatever
to use python3.
7. Python2 packages are discouraged. RHEL-8 will contain python2.7 until
probably the end of life of RHEL-7. However support upstream will only be
minimal. When modularity occurs, we suggest that you make whatever python2
packages modules which can be pulled out when RHEL-8.N no longer has
python2.
8. While a RHEL src.rpm might produce a -devel package, it may not
currently be in the build repository. When running into this please open a
ticket with https://pagure.io/epel/new_issue for us to put in a request for
it to be added to Red Hat's Code Ready Builder. After modularity is
enabled, changes to what is done will be needed.
9. EPEL-8.0 may not work with the RHEL-8.1 beta. There seem to be changes
in dnf and zchunk which we have not worked out. This line will be updated.
10. You will need to make sure you have a version of fedpkg greater than
```fedpkg-1.37-4``` to work with both epel8 and epel8-playground. Versions
before that should work with just epel8.
## Definitions
1. Package maintainer. Person who has accepted responsibility to package
and maintain software in the Fedora Project ecosystem. The main packager is
usually someone focused on Fedora Linux, and secondary packagers may be
focused on particular use cases like EPEL.
2. Consumer. A person who has subscribed to EPEL for packages but is not a
maintainer.
3. PDC. Product Definition Center. A tool to help list the lifetime and
permissions that a product has so that branching and updates can be better
managed.
--
Stephen J Smoogen.
4 years, 4 months
