Future of ClamAV on EPEL ?

[Andrew C Aitchison]

This question is prompted by a question from kumar bava about EPEL7
on the ClamaAV Users list:
https://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2023-March/013338.html

EPEL currently ship the anti-virus ClamAV v0.103.8

From September ClamAV 0.103 will be EOL, and all
supported versions will require Rust.

Rust is available on RHEL 7, 8 and 9 as a part of Red Hat Developer Tools.
Does that mean that EPEL will or will not be able to continue packaging
ClamAV ?

ClamAV do provide rpms, so it may not be the end of the world if
ClamAV disappears from EPEL, but the details of the packing,
especially config locations and defaults may be different.

Thanks,

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[Josh Boyer]

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 3:00 PM Andrew C Aitchison
<andrew(a)aitchison.me.uk&gt; wrote:
>  This question is prompted by a question from kumar bava about EPEL7
>  on the ClamaAV Users list:
>  https://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2023-March/013338.html
>
>  EPEL currently ship the anti-virus ClamAV v0.103.8
>
>  From September ClamAV 0.103 will be EOL, and all
>  supported versions will require Rust.
>
>  Rust is available on RHEL 7, 8 and 9 as a part of Red Hat Developer Tools. 
Small clarification: Rust is available directly in RHEL 8 and 9, not
as part of Red Hat Developer Tools.  I mention it because it means the
EPEL considerations are different in terms of buildroot availability
and requirements.

josh

>  Does that mean that EPEL will or will not be able to continue
> packaging
>  ClamAV ?
>
>  ClamAV do provide rpms, so it may not be the end of the world if
>  ClamAV disappears from EPEL, but the details of the packing,
>  especially config locations and defaults may be different.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  --
>  Andrew C. Aitchison                      Kendal, UK
>                      andrew(a)aitchison.me.uk
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[Maxwell G]

On Tue Mar 7, 2023 at 15:24 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
>  On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 3:00 PM Andrew C Aitchison
>  <andrew(a)aitchison.me.uk&gt; wrote:
>  > Rust is available on RHEL 7, 8 and 9 as a part of Red Hat Developer Tools.
>
>  Small clarification: Rust is available directly in RHEL 8 and 9, not
>  as part of Red Hat Developer Tools.  I mention it because it means the
>  EPEL considerations are different in terms of buildroot availability
>  and requirements. 
rust is also available in EPEL 7 proper[1].

[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rust/tree/epel7

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[Stephen Smoogen]

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 15:00, Andrew C Aitchison <andrew(a)aitchison.me.uk&gt;
wrote:

>  This question is prompted by a question from kumar bava about EPEL7
>  on the ClamaAV Users list:
>  https://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2023-March/013338.html
>
>  EPEL currently ship the anti-virus ClamAV v0.103.8
>
>  From September ClamAV 0.103 will be EOL, and all
>  supported versions will require Rust.
>
>  Rust is available on RHEL 7, 8 and 9 as a part of Red Hat Developer Tools.
>  Does that mean that EPEL will or will not be able to continue packaging
>  ClamAV ?
>
>  ClamAV do provide rpms, so it may not be the end of the world if
>  ClamAV disappears from EPEL, but the details of the packing,
>  especially config locations and defaults may be different.
>
>  
EPEL packages are maintained by volunteers who 'shephard' a particular
package for as long as the volunteer can do so. I have cc'd the main ones I
have seen making commits and builds in case they aren't following the
epel-devel list closely.

That said, EL7 will only be around til June 2024. There will only be so
much 'heavy-lifting' possible to keep things going in that time-frame



>  Thanks,
>
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[Orion Poplawski]

On 3/7/23 13:48, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
>  
>  
>  On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 15:00, Andrew C Aitchison <andrew(a)aitchison.me.uk 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>  
>  
>      This question is prompted by a question from kumar bava about EPEL7
>      on the ClamaAV Users list:
>      https://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2023-March/013338.html
> <https://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2023-March/013338.html>
>  
>      EPEL currently ship the anti-virus ClamAV v0.103.8
>  
>       From September ClamAV 0.103 will be EOL, and all
>      supported versions will require Rust.
>  
>      Rust is available on RHEL 7, 8 and 9 as a part of Red Hat Developer
>      Tools.
>      Does that mean that EPEL will or will not be able to continue packaging
>      ClamAV ?
>  
>      ClamAV do provide rpms, so it may not be the end of the world if
>      ClamAV disappears from EPEL, but the details of the packing,
>      especially config locations and defaults may be different.
>  
>  
>  EPEL packages are maintained by volunteers who 'shephard' a particular 
>  package for as long as the volunteer can do so. I have cc'd the main 
>  ones I have seen making commits and builds in case they aren't following 
>  the epel-devel list closely.
>  
>  That said, EL7 will only be around til June 2024. There will only be so 
>  much 'heavy-lifting' possible to keep things going in that time-frame 
I've been looking into things and I think we will be able to update 
clamav in EL7 and EL8 to 1.0.X once 0.103.X goes EOL.  We're basically 
just waiting on one issue to get resolved at the moment:

https://github.com/Cisco-Talos/clamav/issues/842

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