EPEL Proposed meeting: Fri Aug 22 16:00:00 UTC 2014

[Stephen John Smoogen]

I am proposing that the EPEL community hold a meeting in #epel on Friday
August 22, 2014 16:00:00 UTC to go over various community items:

Suggested topics:

#topic Forking of EPEL packages to a faster moving repository

a) Proposed name of repository is EPIC
b) What packages stay, which packages go.

#topic Setup and controls for said repository

When do packages update in EPIC repository, how are they announced and
where?

#topic Review and cleanup of EPEL policies

There was a problem with several packages being removed which broke other
packages. These packages were removed because we have in the past not allow
orphaned or non-maintain packages.. but where is this documented.

#topic Open Floor

Place for the meeting will be in #epel

To determine when this meeting occurs in your timezone please type:

date -d '2014-08-22 16:00:00 UTC'

example:

[smooge@seiji ~]$ date -d '2014-08-22 16:00:00 UTC'
Fri Aug 22 10:00:00 MDT 2014

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:51:04 -0600
Stephen John Smoogen  wrote:
> I am proposing that the EPEL community hold a meeting in #epel on
> Friday August 22, 2014 16:00:00 UTC to go over various community
> items:

Sure. I will be there. :)

Thanks for trying to organize things again.
> Suggested topics:
>
> #topic Forking of EPEL packages to a faster moving repository
>
> a) Proposed name of repository is EPIC
> b) What packages stay, which packages go.
>
> #topic Setup and controls for said repository
>
> When do packages update in EPIC repository, how are they announced and
> where?

There are a ton of logistical issues if we create a new repo.

- Is it in regular fedora git as another branch? If not, where else?
- Can we teach bodhi how to deal with it? Or does it just not use
  bodhi/updates?
- Does it build in koji? 
- Package reviews the same as other packages?
> #topic Review and cleanup of EPEL policies
>
> There was a problem with several packages being removed which broke
> other packages. These packages were removed because we have in the
> past not allow orphaned or non-maintain packages.. but where is this
> documented.

The mongodb thing turns out to have just been a mistake. ;) 
But yeah, documenting more process would be good.

kevin

[Jim Perrin]

On 08/14/2014 06:51 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> I am proposing that the EPEL community hold a meeting in #epel on Friday
> August 22, 2014 16:00:00 UTC to go over various community items:

I'll be there.
> Suggested topics:
>
> #topic Forking of EPEL packages to a faster moving repository
>
> a) Proposed name of repository is EPIC
> b) What packages stay, which packages go.
>
> #topic Setup and controls for said repository
>
> When do packages update in EPIC repository, how are they announced and
> where?
>
> #topic Review and cleanup of EPEL policies
>
> There was a problem with several packages being removed which broke other
> packages. These packages were removed because we have in the past not allow
> orphaned or non-maintain packages.. but where is this documented.
>
> #topic Open Floor
>
> Place for the meeting will be in #epel
>
> To determine when this meeting occurs in your timezone please type:
>
> date -d '2014-08-22 16:00:00 UTC'
>
> example:
>
> [smooge@seiji ~]$ date -d '2014-08-22 16:00:00 UTC'
> Fri Aug 22 10:00:00 MDT 2014
>
> epel-devel mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel

[Mukundan Ragavan]

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On 08/14/2014 06:51 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> I am proposing that the EPEL community hold a meeting in #epel on
> Friday August 22, 2014 16:00:00 UTC to go over various community
> items:

Thanks for organizing this meeting. Unfortunately, I will be at my
work at this time. I will make sure to read the meeting minutes/logs
and come back here with concerns, if any.

Mukundan.

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[Till Maas]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 05:51:04PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> I am proposing that the EPEL community hold a meeting in #epel on Friday
> August 22, 2014 16:00:00 UTC to go over various community items:
>
> Suggested topics:

I have an additional topic: Establish and document a decision making
process. As far as I know, decisions are currently typically done by
Kevin and Dennis agreeing on something, but I believe this is not
properly documented or well known. If this is how it should be or if
there is a plan to do it differently, then this should be documented on
the wiki. Probably I won't be able to attend the meeting, but if
something is agreed upon, I can add it to the wiki afterwards.

Regards
Till

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:52:53 +0200
Till Maas  wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 05:51:04PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > I am proposing that the EPEL community hold a meeting in #epel on
> > Friday August 22, 2014 16:00:00 UTC to go over various community
> > items:
> >
> > Suggested topics:
>
> I have an additional topic: Establish and document a decision making
> process. As far as I know, decisions are currently typically done by
> Kevin and Dennis agreeing on something, but I believe this is not
> properly documented or well known. If this is how it should be or if
> there is a plan to do it differently, then this should be documented
> on the wiki. Probably I won't be able to attend the meeting, but if
> something is agreed upon, I can add it to the wiki afterwards.

Yeah, this basically came about because we moved from a steering
comittee to a "whoever shows up at meetings and does work decides" and
then everyone except me stopped showing up to meetings. ;)

I'm happy to try and reach some consensus if there's actually an
interested group of people to try and do that with. ;)

kevin

[Jeff Sheltren]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> Yeah, this basically came about because we moved from a steering
> comittee to a "whoever shows up at meetings and does work decides" and
> then everyone except me stopped showing up to meetings. ;)
>
> I'm happy to try and reach some consensus if there's actually an
> interested group of people to try and do that with. ;)

Thanks Smooge for pulling this together.  I'm going to be out of the office
on Friday but I'll do my best to make the meeting.

Also, great suggestion by Till for discussing the decision making progress.
 I definitely appreciate all the work done by Kevin and Dennis, but maybe
it's time to get a bit more organized?

-Jeff

[Michael Stahnke]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:52:53 +0200
> Till Maas  wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 05:51:04PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > > I am proposing that the EPEL community hold a meeting in #epel on
> > > Friday August 22, 2014 16:00:00 UTC to go over various community
> > > items

I can't this week, but if we keep that time, I generally should be able to
make it, which would be great.