Handling of postponed/abandoned efforts

[Petr Vobornik]

Hi all,

you could see that I and Christian closed some old postponed PRs.

I was thinking how to keep track of such closed efforts in case we
would like to return to some.

An Idea I have is a postponed page on FreeIPA wiki.
  https://www.freeipa.org/page/Postponed

Which is also added to Roadmap to be discoverable:
  https://www.freeipa.org/page/Roadmap

I'm not sure with one thing. Usually, we close pr with rejected label.
But if we close postponed PR with only "we don't have time" reason, we
might want to keep postponed label there so that it can be easily
found (query: is:pr is:closed label:postponed ).


Do you see value in the page or the practice?

Thank you
-- 
Petr Vobornik

[Rob Crittenden]

Petr Vobornik via FreeIPA-devel wrote:
>  Hi all,
>  
>  you could see that I and Christian closed some old postponed PRs.
>  
>  I was thinking how to keep track of such closed efforts in case we
>  would like to return to some.
>  
>  An Idea I have is a postponed page on FreeIPA wiki.
>    https://www.freeipa.org/page/Postponed
>  
>  Which is also added to Roadmap to be discoverable:
>    https://www.freeipa.org/page/Roadmap
>  
>  I'm not sure with one thing. Usually, we close pr with rejected label.
>  But if we close postponed PR with only "we don't have time" reason, we
>  might want to keep postponed label there so that it can be easily
>  found (query: is:pr is:closed label:postponed ).
>  
>  
>  Do you see value in the page or the practice? 
It would be nice assuming we ever got around to reviving them. I guess
it would depend mostly on the submitter. I have a feeling this will end
up as a bucket-o-doom.

rob

[Petr Vobornik]

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Rob Crittenden <rcritten(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Petr Vobornik via FreeIPA-devel wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > you could see that I and Christian closed some old postponed PRs.
> >
> > I was thinking how to keep track of such closed efforts in case we
> > would like to return to some.
> >
> > An Idea I have is a postponed page on FreeIPA wiki.
> >   https://www.freeipa.org/page/Postponed
> >
> > Which is also added to Roadmap to be discoverable:
> >   https://www.freeipa.org/page/Roadmap
> >
> > I'm not sure with one thing. Usually, we close pr with rejected label.
> > But if we close postponed PR with only "we don't have time" reason, we
> > might want to keep postponed label there so that it can be easily
> > found (query: is:pr is:closed label:postponed ).
> >
> >
> > Do you see value in the page or the practice?
>
>  It would be nice assuming we ever got around to reviving them. I guess
>  it would depend mostly on the submitter. I have a feeling this will end
>  up as a bucket-o-doom.
>  
On the wiki I'd keep only ideas that are worth reviving. If something
is a dead end then it is not worth to keep it. As an example, there
are Web UI tests for OTP, draft of notification center or Tomas
Babej's troubleshooting framework. The use case I try to solve by it
is: I know that there was some work done which might not have been a
PR but it was not finished e.g. because the person switched roles or
left the team.

-- 
Petr Vobornik

Associate Manager, Engineering, Identity Management
Red Hat

[Scott Poore]

----- Original Message -----
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>  To: "Discussion of the development of FreeIPA"
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>  Cc: "Petr Vobornik" <pvoborni(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:48:14 AM
>  Subject: [Freeipa-devel] Handling of postponed/abandoned efforts
>  
>  Hi all,
>  
>  you could see that I and Christian closed some old postponed PRs.
>  
>  I was thinking how to keep track of such closed efforts in case we
>  would like to return to some.
>  
>  An Idea I have is a postponed page on FreeIPA wiki.
>    https://www.freeipa.org/page/Postponed
>  
>  Which is also added to Roadmap to be discoverable:
>    https://www.freeipa.org/page/Roadmap
>  
>  I'm not sure with one thing. Usually, we close pr with rejected label.
>  But if we close postponed PR with only "we don't have time" reason, we
>  might want to keep postponed label there so that it can be easily
>  found (query: is:pr is:closed label:postponed ).
>  
>  
>  Do you see value in the page or the practice? 
Would you also triage that page occasionally and decide to keep or completely close PRs? 
Would you have some age cutoff?  I'd say after some period in time it's unlikely
to ever be completed.  After 5 years the PR gets tossed.

I'm just thinking you may end up with a lot of stuff there you'll never have time
to do.

> 
> Thank you
> --
> Petr Vobornik
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[Felipe Barreto]

On 02/07/2018 02:48 PM, Petr Vobornik via FreeIPA-devel wrote:
>  Hi all,
>  
>  you could see that I and Christian closed some old postponed PRs.
>  
>  I was thinking how to keep track of such closed efforts in case we
>  would like to return to some.
>  
>  An Idea I have is a postponed page on FreeIPA wiki.
>     https://www.freeipa.org/page/Postponed
>  
>  Which is also added to Roadmap to be discoverable:
>     https://www.freeipa.org/page/Roadmap
>  
>  I'm not sure with one thing. Usually, we close pr with rejected label.
>  But if we close postponed PR with only "we don't have time" reason, we
>  might want to keep postponed label there so that it can be easily
>  found (query: is:pr is:closed label:postponed ).
>  
>  
>  Do you see value in the page or the practice? 
I would go with the practice, a page in wiki doesn't seem so easy to
maintain as a GH label. We could use the label postponed and
leave a comment as you mentioned.

> 
> Thank you
>