On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:41:57 -0600
Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 03:54:00 +0100
Clive Hills <discordianuk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Sadly, very sadly
> I would like to see the following items on next week's agenda:
>
> - Why can non-#fedora ops nominate #fedora ops
I would rephase that as: "who can nominate someone as a #fedora op".
Should we allow self nominations?
Should it be only any existing #fedora op?
Should it be more than one existing #fedora op?
We can add this to the meeting next week...
I would like to remind everybody before we go down this road, it should
be applicable to all channels (i.e. not just #fedora). As I understand
it #fedora-ops and the IRC-Operators-SIG was established for OPs of all
#fedora-* channels and not just #fedora. So based on that we would be
making a policy that could be applicable to more than just the #fedora
channel.
In other words to become your statement should read:
Should we allow self nominations?
Should it be only any existing #fedora-* op?
Should it be more than one existing #fedora-* op?
Now based on that do we really want to go down this road? I think not,
I believe that any #fedora-* op should be able to make a nomination
since the goal is to make #fedora-* a better place in the communities
eyes. I also believe that each and every nomination should be evaluated
on not just past performance, but how they could improve the impression
of the #fedora-* community. If that is not the case please let me
know and then why are we dictating who can and can not be an OP in
#fedora-social?
Now why do I bring this up, I bring it up for those of you who do not
believe opsec would make a good OP based on his past impressions made
with other OPs. That should not matter, it is not about who likes who
or who has issues with who. It is about the good of the community as it
relates to Fedora. There are very few in our group that has done as
much as he as for the community. Take a look at
http://centoshelp.org,
this is a site that I have had the pleasure of assisting Warren (opsec)
create for CentOS. He also did the same on our Fedora Unity sites till
he started getting persecuted in #fedora and other #fedora-* channels.
He has always been a Fedora community supporter, hence the reason he
has a Fedora cloak. For quite sometime he was the sole reason the
Fedora Unity servers including
fpaste.org was online as he fully funded
the use of those servers out of his own pockets to assist in supporting
the community. He spends/has spent many hours in #fedora assisting new
users with configuring and installing fedora and is a staunch Fedora
supporter through thick and thin. Does he have issue periodically
berating users? Sometimes, but who doesn't at times?
Now based on all of this is why I have given my nod of approval to
having him nominated as and op in #fedora and #fedora-social. So before
you judge somebody just based on your impression of them you may want
to look at what good they have done for the community and not just
base it on your one dimensional impression of them from your minor
interactions/disagreements within one irc channel
> and with pleasure :-
>
> - I'll propose fcami for a trial op
I would say +1 here. He's been very visible in the channel, he's been
very helpful to people. He knows what he's talking about, and is
involved in other areas of Fedora, so knows where to send people,
etc. I also think he's been helpful and provided good ideas for the
feedback issues, and would like to see him contribute more and add
his voice and votes to issues we vote on.
kevin
I would also like to say +1 to fcami.
Scott Glaser (Sonar_Guy)
Fedora Unity Founder