Here's what I have for an agenda for tomorrow's (2012-05-24) meeting, which will be held at 17:00UTC/12:00 Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
Feel free to reply to this with additional topics, or bring them up in the "open floor" section of the meeting.
#topic Week in review http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
#topic ticket 108 - Proposal for Ammendment to the IRC Support SIGPolicy
#topic ticket 107 - Mass Removal Of Stagnant Voting Members
#topic ticket 105 - #fedora-social and #fedora channel nomination N3LRX
#topic ticket 112 - Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb)
#topic ticket 110 - Release ban requested for user OzBorne in #fedora
#topic ticket 111 - Improve handling of unregistered users
#topic Open Floor
kevin
----- "Kevin Fenzi" kevin@scrye.com wrote:
Here's what I have for an agenda for tomorrow's (2012-05-24) meeting,
which will be held at 17:00UTC/12:00 Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
Feel free to reply to this with additional topics, or bring them up in the "open floor" section of the meeting.
#topic Week in review http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
#topic ticket 108 - Proposal for Ammendment to the IRC Support SIGPolicy
#topic ticket 107 - Mass Removal Of Stagnant Voting Members
#topic ticket 105 - #fedora-social and #fedora channel nomination N3LRX
#topic ticket 112 - Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb)
#topic ticket 110 - Release ban requested for user OzBorne in #fedora
#topic ticket 111 - Improve handling of unregistered users
#topic Open Floor
In the past our meetings have been at 17:00UTC the above email had the incorrect "local" time, the correct time should be 13:00 (1:00PM) Eastern.
Sorry for Kevin's confusion... ;)
-- Bob
============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-05-24) =============================================
Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-24/irc-support-sig.2... .
Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 17:00:00)
* Week in review (nirik, 17:02:54) * LINK: http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html (nirik, 17:02:54)
* ticket 108 - Proposal for Ammendment to the IRC Support SIGPolicy (nirik, 17:05:59) * further discussion about a probation period for new ops (nirik, 17:12:23)
* ticket 107 - Mass Removal Of Stagnant Voting Members (nirik, 17:13:16) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/107 (nirik, 17:14:11) * will collect up the votes in ticket and clarify. (nirik, 17:21:08) * AGREED: will remove folks who no longer wish to be involved and say so (nirik, 17:22:48)
* ticket 105 - #fedora-social and #fedora channel nomination N3LRX (nirik, 17:26:57)
* ticket 112 - Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb) (nirik, 17:30:11)
* ticket 110 - Release ban requested for user OzBorne in #fedora (nirik, 17:36:22) * AGREED: will wait and see if they require more banning for further actions (nirik, 17:45:25)
* ticket 111 - Improve handling of unregistered users (nirik, 17:45:32) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/111 (EvilBob, 17:45:55)
* Open Floor (nirik, 17:48:25) * AGREED: will stop feedback now and re-enable before release. (nirik, 17:51:41) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/108 Work on this week, vote on Thursday (EvilBob, 17:52:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/107 Vote next week I will work on a wiki page for voting (EvilBob, 17:52:55) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/105 vote on Thursday (EvilBob, 17:53:15) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/112 Handled (EvilBob, 17:53:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/110 Let'em swing (EvilBob, 17:53:51) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/111 Closed, Dead Horse (EvilBob, 17:54:10)
Meeting ended at 17:55:01 UTC.
Action Items ------------
Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none)
People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (113) * EvilBob (108) * Sonar_Gal (58) * dcr226 (49) * Khaytsus (9) * FranciscoD (5) * zodbot (4) * N3LRX (3) * cyberworm54 (3) * Sonar_Guy (1) * LetoTo (1) -- 17:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-05-24) 17:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May 24 17:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:00 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:00 <nirik> #topic init process 17:00:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:19 * N3LRX 17:00:23 * FranciscoD 17:00:24 <nirik> #chair EvilBob dcr226 17:00:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob dcr226 nirik 17:00:25 * EvilBob 17:00:55 * nirik waits for folks to come in 17:01:08 <nirik> note that the go/no-go meeting for f17 is happening in #fedora-meeting-1 17:01:15 * dcr226 partys like its 1999 17:01:16 * FranciscoD is sitting in there too :P 17:01:19 * EvilBob hears the noon siren, time to get out of the mines... 17:02:07 * nirik will wait another minute for folks to wander in.. 17:02:29 * Sonar_Gal is partially here but may have to leave quickly so get it started or cancel till next week!!! 17:02:41 <Sonar_Gal> To much to do 17:02:48 <nirik> ok, we can dive on in... 17:02:54 <nirik> #topic Week in review 17:02:54 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 17:02:59 <nirik> anything for week in review? 17:03:15 <nirik> bunch of f17 folks now... but otherwise pretty normal IMHO 17:03:28 <EvilBob> A lot of people chomping at the bit for F17 is all 17:03:55 <nirik> yeah. 17:03:55 <EvilBob> Oh... 17:04:02 <dcr226> f17 is pretty nice...nothing to report here 17:04:06 <FranciscoD> aye 17:04:13 <FranciscoD> a few bugs, but been taken care of 17:04:16 <dcr226> apart from lxpanel turning me over at every available opportunity 17:04:54 <EvilBob> New user from "downunder" He tries real hard and is not quite getting a few things. Lets try to give him a break as he is trying, he's been getting ganged up on a bit. 17:05:14 * FranciscoD notes that 17:05:40 <nirik> yeah, one of the things we need to keep trying to improve on 17:05:47 <nirik> ok, moving on. 17:05:51 <EvilBob> Yup 17:05:59 <nirik> #topic ticket 108 - Proposal for Ammendment to the IRC Support SIGPolicy 17:06:26 <nirik> I liked the last draft I looked at with a few nitpicks. I think EvilBob made some changes for those nitpicks, but haven't had a chance to look super closely. 17:06:45 <EvilBob> the current revision is here following nirik's input yesterday https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User:Dp67/sandbox/irc-sig&ol... 17:07:26 <nirik> EvilBob: yeah, N3LRX did a commit on the current page and backed it out so we could use diff on it. ;) But yeah, mostly looked good to me. 17:07:27 * Khaytsus 17:07:41 * Sonar_Guy 17:07:54 <EvilBob> One question I have on it 17:08:03 * nirik hasn't heard much feedback from others. 17:08:16 <EvilBob> In the past we had a probation for new ops, did we want to add that back in? 17:08:36 <Sonar_Gal> We should 90 days wasn't it 17:08:53 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: Yeah 3 months/90 days 17:09:10 <nirik> well, I'm not sure what that means... ? 17:09:19 <EvilBob> The problem being, what does it mean 17:09:23 <nirik> that their status can be removed by anyone for any reason? or ? 17:09:31 <EvilBob> What are the expectations and repercussions 17:09:35 <nirik> or at least removed more easily than voting them out? 17:09:41 <Sonar_Gal> nirik, sorry last week of school last week and this week so no time to reply to emails. Finished school yesterday and at school at 7am for rotc practice today 17:10:12 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: we have until next week to vote on and work on this. 17:10:14 * nirik notes he also has been swamped, and would be fine with further discussion on this draft. perhaps we can get it so everyone is happy with it. ;) 17:10:16 <Sonar_Gal> Before it was 90 days of bot-ops and if they couldn't handle the situations correctly they were removed. 17:10:41 <Sonar_Gal> This gives time to see if these people can be an op in the channels they have bot ops in 17:10:55 <Sonar_Gal> or of they need to go full op or just stay bot op 17:11:03 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: can we get together as a small group before next weeks meeting and work out the language for this? 17:11:34 <Sonar_Gal> EvilBob, Won't be till Tues or Wed with the holiday this weekend and graduation 17:11:36 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: I agree with the 90days as long as we have a meaning to it. 17:11:53 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: I can make myself available on Tuesday 17:11:55 <Sonar_Gal> ok 17:12:06 * nirik isn't sure it makes sense, but could be persuaded. 17:12:23 <nirik> #info further discussion about a probation period for new ops 17:12:26 * dcr226 prepares the persuasion equipment 17:12:32 * nirik runs for his life 17:12:35 <EvilBob> nirik: I think we can work on it in a small group and add it to the ticket for consideration 17:12:36 <dcr226> ;-) 17:12:46 <nirik> sounds good to me. 17:12:55 <Sonar_Gal> that works 17:12:57 <nirik> any other comments on this ticket? or should we move along? 17:13:03 <Sonar_Gal> next 17:13:09 <EvilBob> Next 17:13:16 <nirik> #topic ticket 107 - Mass Removal Of Stagnant Voting Members 17:13:36 <nirik> so, are we ready to tally here? 17:13:40 <nirik> or want more time? 17:13:58 <EvilBob> I'll make a comment on the other ticket about the probation item 17:14:01 <Sonar_Gal> I thought we were not removing op's unless they wanted to be removed 17:14:11 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/107 17:14:26 <EvilBob> If they have not been heard from should they be kept? 17:14:34 <Sonar_Gal> some bounce in and out when they have time and other's just have no time right now 17:14:37 <nirik> Sonar_Gal: under the current rules ops can be removed if there are votes to do so. 17:14:44 <Sonar_Gal> oh ok 17:15:02 <Khaytsus> Some of those OPs might not even repond or pay attention anymore 17:15:19 <nirik> I'm fine with removing everyone who didn't reply to the ticket indicating that they wished to remain/stay involved. 17:15:35 <Sonar_Gal> -1 to kanarip as he is in fedora and social and does help or chat when he has time 17:15:42 <nirik> but I am -1 to any of those people who did reply saying they wanted to be involved. 17:15:44 <Sonar_Gal> He has a different nick in -social 17:16:06 <EvilBob> Also in the case jsmith he was never elected in to an ops position and in the past we have never had a provision for honorary special privs 17:16:06 <Khaytsus> Yes, if anyone wants to remain on the list, I say remove them from the cut 17:16:35 <EvilBob> He was only added to being an op as he was FPL 17:16:35 <nirik> EvilBob: we never had a clear process for adding people in the past... 17:16:52 <Sonar_Gal> He is the only one on the list that I see keeping 17:16:53 <EvilBob> nirik: we have always voted on ops 17:17:09 <EvilBob> nirik: Since the start of the SIG 17:17:10 * dcr226 is -1 for thomasj and mharris 17:17:24 <Sonar_Gal> most were given op's by spot cause it was needed and most are not around now 17:17:54 <Sonar_Gal> kanarip, got op's before the sig but is around and helps and chats in -social 17:17:58 <nirik> actually I don't see jsmith as an op anywhere 17:18:11 <dcr226> nirik, he's just a member of the sig afaik 17:18:12 <Sonar_Gal> he was only an op as the FPL 17:18:17 <EvilBob> I'm cool with keeping thomasj, if mharris wants to be an op still I'm fine with that also, if he just want's a voice thenthere is the "voting memeber" option in the proposed changes. 17:18:27 <nirik> Sonar_Gal: he's not in any of the access lists. 17:18:52 <Sonar_Gal> nirik, kanarip ? 17:18:56 <Sonar_Gal> or jsmith? 17:19:00 <nirik> jsmith: 17:19:14 <Sonar_Gal> ah ok 17:19:26 <EvilBob> nirik: So if jsmith not an op and only a "voting member" I am fine with that staying 17:19:32 <nirik> so, where are we here. It's a bit of a muddle with all the people in one ticket. 17:19:44 <nirik> EvilBob: that seems to be the case... 17:19:50 <nirik> from what I can see. 17:19:58 <EvilBob> nirik: How about I clean up the ticket and make it more clear who is what 17:20:16 <EvilBob> nirik: we can vote things next week I would think. 17:20:19 <nirik> EvilBob: could you add a running tally too? 17:20:37 <EvilBob> nirik: Yeah that was my plan, who voted and what they voted 17:20:44 <nirik> sounds great to me. 17:20:52 <nirik> any objections or further ideas? 17:21:00 <EvilBob> I'll try to work on that today 17:21:03 <dcr226> well....you can make it a bit easier: 17:21:04 <Sonar_Gal> We need to look at the -social list of op's also and remove a few that are inactive 17:21:08 <nirik> #info will collect up the votes in ticket and clarify. 17:21:31 <dcr226> there are a couple of members who have already intinated that they have no issue with their removal....surely these can just go, with a view to making the list smaller? 17:21:40 <dcr226> warren was one iirc 17:22:04 <nirik> sure, I'm fine with that... no reason to keep someone against their will 17:22:12 <EvilBob> dcr226: Agreed 17:22:16 <Sonar_Gal> agree 17:22:36 <nirik> I can clean those up as they appear. 17:22:48 <nirik> #agreed will remove folks who no longer wish to be involved and say so 17:22:51 <EvilBob> nirik: Is it OK if I go with the classifications of members as in the proposal? 17:23:06 <nirik> op vs voting ? or ? 17:23:10 <EvilBob> Yeah 17:23:24 <dcr226> I wonder if this would be better as a temporary page on the wiki? A table of members maybe? 17:23:29 <EvilBob> op <what channel> and/or Voting member 17:23:39 <EvilBob> dcr226: Damn good idea 17:23:57 <EvilBob> dcr226: I'll set up a sandbox to play in 17:24:01 * dcr226 avoids any wiki-wrangling usually 17:24:16 <EvilBob> dcr226: As long as I get input I can handle it 17:24:17 <nirik> EvilBob: so, folks who are not ops but have been invited to help out/provide feedback in the -ops channel, are voting members? or is there another state there/ 17:24:51 <EvilBob> nirik: I think that invitees to -ops are different than the "voting upper class" 17:25:11 <Sonar_Gal> Thought we decided only Sig/Fas could vote 17:25:23 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: Right 17:25:26 <nirik> ok, so then there needs to be another state for that? invitee? 17:25:29 <Sonar_Gal> that is something else we need to get worked out 17:25:36 <EvilBob> nirik: I think it is covered 17:25:49 <EvilBob> I will review the draft and make sure 17:26:12 <EvilBob> I think we can move on and work on this in the sandbox and on the ticket 17:26:22 <nirik> ok, so, clean up the current ticket and add a vote tally, I will remove people who want to be removed this week, and the rest we can finish up next week? 17:26:36 <EvilBob> Sounds fair to me 17:26:38 <Sonar_Gal> +1 17:26:43 <EvilBob> +1 17:26:47 <nirik> cool. 17:26:57 <nirik> #topic ticket 105 - #fedora-social and #fedora channel nomination N3LRX 17:27:10 <nirik> shall we vote on this? or do we want further discussion? 17:27:23 <EvilBob> THis is a discussion meeting on this ticket 17:27:36 * dcr226 +1, don't think this will need discussion 17:27:36 <EvilBob> as noted in the ticket 17:27:41 <dcr226> to clarify: I can't see anyone objecting 17:27:50 <dcr226> oh...ok, my bad...pre-emptive +1 then ;-) 17:27:59 * nirik is +1, but if we want to wait another week for voting I don't care. 17:28:12 <Sonar_Gal> I have no problems with N3LRX getting op's in those channels he is level headed and normally fun to be around 17:28:14 <EvilBob> from the ticket "I'm going to change the vote date to 2012-05-31 to allow discussion on 2012-05-24. Both the nominee and I can not make the meeting (discussion) this week, 2012-05-17." 17:28:35 <Sonar_Gal> ok 17:28:50 <EvilBob> I think it's fair that we follow that as I posted it last week 17:29:09 * dcr226 is cool with that 17:29:11 <nirik> sure, fine with me. 17:29:12 <Sonar_Gal> ok 17:29:17 <nirik> N3LRX: anything to add? ;) 17:29:21 <EvilBob> NEXT! 17:29:58 <N3LRX> I enjoy working with the sig and look forward to becoming more involved. 17:30:02 <nirik> ok, moving along. :) 17:30:08 <nirik> thanks N3LRX 17:30:11 <nirik> #topic ticket 112 - Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb) 17:30:22 <EvilBob> N3LRX: You are an asset 17:30:29 <nirik> I've removed zodbot from the autoop list, so it shouldn't have any op privs anymore. 17:30:37 <dcr226> EvilBob, you are an ass 17:30:40 <dcr226> asset* 17:30:45 <nirik> With that, I personally am fine saying 'don't do this' and closing the ticket. 17:30:46 <dcr226> damn you <enter> key 17:30:47 <dcr226> ;-) 17:30:48 <EvilBob> dcr226: Tell me something I don't know? 17:30:51 <dcr226> LOL 17:31:04 * dcr226 couldn't resist that one 17:31:28 <EvilBob> nirik: So zodbot can not get or give ops in any of our channels, correct? 17:31:44 <nirik> yep. 17:31:48 <nirik> it was set to 'auto op' 17:31:54 <nirik> so when it rejoined chanserv would op it 17:32:05 <nirik> that is no longer the case 17:32:05 <dcr226> it is still capable of getting +o on -ops 17:32:17 <nirik> oh? did I miss one? 17:32:19 * nirik fixes 17:32:38 <EvilBob> nirik: while we are on the access list item 17:32:52 <nirik> no, it was just voiced there. 17:32:56 <EvilBob> nirik: nb was given ops in the access list for -social 17:33:27 <nirik> yeah. and the bot. 17:33:36 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: You remember the probation bit better than most of us, would this be incorrect he should be on the bot only? 17:33:47 <Sonar_Gal> bot only for 90 days 17:34:02 <Sonar_Gal> Then if he is voted to be a full op after the 90 days 17:34:03 * nirik notes thats no where in our current policies. ;) but I don't care much 17:34:13 <EvilBob> I will vote +1 to agree with Sonar_Gal 17:34:23 <Sonar_Gal> That's what it was before the last write up 17:34:35 <Sonar_Gal> hopefully We can get all that fixed next week 17:34:40 <EvilBob> nirik: lets not get in to the lackings in the "current policies" 17:34:44 <EvilBob> ;) 17:34:50 <nirik> how about we wait on that until we approve the new stuff... 17:34:59 <nirik> then we can also apply it retroactively 17:35:02 <nirik> if we like 17:35:20 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: That good with you? 17:35:38 <Sonar_Gal> ok 17:35:53 <EvilBob> I'm cool with that 17:36:02 <nirik> ok, shall we move on then? 17:36:11 <EvilBob> Sorry for adding things to the ticket discussion 17:36:16 <EvilBob> NEXT! 17:36:22 <nirik> 2 more tickets. ;) 17:36:22 <nirik> #topic ticket 110 - Release ban requested for user OzBorne in #fedora 17:36:38 <EvilBob> I am naturally +1 to banning him 17:36:50 <nirik> I would be against the ban if the user would appologize or say they were going to improve or anything really... 17:36:51 <dcr226> EvilBob, that means you are -1 to the ticket 17:37:13 <nirik> he was trying to comment there this morning, but couldn't get logged in. 17:37:15 <EvilBob> nirik: they have done so in the past and gone back on it 17:37:22 <nirik> yep. 17:37:37 <nirik> so, I'm sadly +1 and hope next release they will be better. 17:37:43 <EvilBob> nirik: calling ops from the french channel on the phone is a perfect example 17:37:44 * dcr226 thinks the user isn't currently banned 17:37:55 <N3LRX> he isnt 17:37:55 <nirik> dcr226: they aren't. They had a week and it just expired. 17:37:59 <EvilBob> dcr226: no, the one week ban just expired 17:38:04 <dcr226> ok, let me break this down a sec 17:38:11 <Sonar_Gal> and if it happens they get banned for the remainder of the life cycle 17:38:20 <dcr226> the ticket is to request the removal of a ban, which has actually expired 17:38:22 <Sonar_Gal> He only had a week ban that was lifted this morning 17:38:32 <EvilBob> dcr226: no, it is for a Fedora™ release 17:38:32 <dcr226> so the ticket is null and void, close... WONTFIX 17:38:38 <dcr226> ahhhhh 17:38:50 <dcr226> ok ok, I grokked "Release" as, release the ban 17:38:55 <EvilBob> it is a release ban not a ban release 17:39:00 <nirik> I'll note the first thing they did this morning was to come in and complain about this ticket. 17:39:28 <EvilBob> I'm not sure what they said this morning 17:39:35 <EvilBob> I just know they said it to me 17:39:38 <dcr226> in the interests of "policy", I'm -1 to the ticket...and I'll explain why. The user has just expired a 1 week ban, and hasn't gotten themselves re-banned as yet 17:39:46 <dcr226> my shout would be, the next ban is a release ban 17:39:54 <Sonar_Gal> +1 17:39:56 * dcr226 hopes that made any sort of sense 17:39:58 <EvilBob> dcr226: They were release banned in the past 17:40:17 <EvilBob> It's a "preemptive strike" 17:40:20 <dcr226> yeah 17:40:31 <Sonar_Gal> has happened what 2 or 3 releases now 17:40:32 <dcr226> I'm not sure I'm personally +1 for a pre-empt 17:40:46 <dcr226> but obviously I won't loose sleep over it, just voicing an opinion :) 17:41:10 * nirik is ok either way. I'm sure they will mess up again and get the ban, but if we don't want to wait... 17:41:18 <dcr226> nirik, I agree...it will be within days 17:41:29 <EvilBob> As they said in the movie industry, No redeeming social value, so it gets X and not R 17:41:29 <Khaytsus> We'll leave the rope out for them 17:42:14 <nirik> so... whats the consensus here then? 17:42:24 <EvilBob> So who here is +1 for the ban? 17:42:29 <dcr226> vote tally time :) 17:42:31 * dcr226 -1 17:42:38 <EvilBob> or -1 for not ban (yet) 17:42:38 <nirik> +1 17:42:43 <EvilBob> +1 17:42:44 <Sonar_Gal> -1 let him hang himself again 17:42:56 <dcr226> ooer...deadlock....lets wrestle!! 17:43:06 <Sonar_Gal> Khaytsus, ? 17:43:07 <EvilBob> Fair enough, let him swing 17:43:11 * dcr226 gets his clothes off....ready! 17:43:17 <Khaytsus> +1 why waste our time with it 17:43:24 <dcr226> its gold :) 17:43:31 <LetoTo> blind! 17:43:39 <dcr226> Heh 17:43:40 <EvilBob> at 3-2 we have not reached a "broad consensus" IMO 17:43:48 <dcr226> yep, good for me 17:44:28 <EvilBob> nirik: Add a final warning note to the ticket if you would please. 17:44:32 <nirik> so, close the ticket taking no action? ask for more voting? 17:44:55 <nirik> I can try... I don't suspect they will listen... ;) 17:44:58 <EvilBob> nirik: Just close it, time will handle it I think. 17:45:08 <nirik> ok. 17:45:09 * dcr226 doesn't think it will last long either fwiw 17:45:10 <EvilBob> Listen or not, we documented it 17:45:25 <nirik> #agreed will wait and see if they require more banning for further actions 17:45:32 <nirik> #topic ticket 111 - Improve handling of unregistered users 17:45:42 <nirik> so, I don't think there's much we can do here. 17:45:55 <nirik> technically speaking the ideas aren't really possible. ;( 17:45:55 <dcr226> agreed...close WONTFIX imho 17:45:55 <EvilBob> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/111 17:45:58 <Khaytsus> Can't fix stupid. 17:45:58 <Sonar_Gal> I actuallly helped 2 users get set up this week 17:46:10 <Sonar_Gal> No system is slow also 17:46:14 <EvilBob> Khaytsus: "Here's your sign" 17:46:25 <Sonar_Gal> They don't get the emails as fast as they think they should 17:46:52 <EvilBob> The user that filed the ticket that was not the case however 17:47:00 <Sonar_Gal> Correct 17:47:06 <EvilBob> their client was joining too fast 17:47:08 <Khaytsus> I too get dumped into unreg even with server password AND a delay. Annoys me too. But it's a freenode problem as far as I can tell. Some people have more trouble than others. 17:47:12 <Sonar_Gal> I helped 2 and neither or them filed a ticket 17:47:13 <EvilBob> I helped them with that 17:47:17 <Khaytsus> Can't fix it on our end, and I do _not_ want to remove the +r 17:47:40 <EvilBob> Khaytsus: from the channel topic "Depending on your client "/set irc_join_delay 10" to delay joining 10 seconds" 17:47:41 <nirik> yeah, we have gone over this. 17:47:49 <dcr226> and over.....and over 17:47:58 <EvilBob> nirik: close it "dead horse" 17:48:01 <EvilBob> ;) 17:48:03 <nirik> we could kill the redirect and make people not be able to speak until registered... but then they just get confused 17:48:16 <EvilBob> We need that as a ticket option 17:48:16 <nirik> anyhow, yeah, +1... sorry, not a way to fix. 17:48:22 <nirik> heh 17:48:25 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 17:48:29 <nirik> anything for open floor? 17:48:53 <Sonar_Gal> quick recap 17:48:57 <EvilBob> I really hope to get feedback on the amendment item 17:49:11 <Sonar_Gal> We are going to work on the sig this week. 17:49:18 <Sonar_Gal> Tuesday 17:49:22 <dcr226> hold up...weren't we going to do something with the feedback spammer? 17:49:29 <EvilBob> Yup the "probation" bit 17:49:43 <Sonar_Gal> EvilBob, and a few other things that need to be added 17:49:54 <EvilBob> dcr226: Yeah we were going to drop it two weeks ago IIRC until the release 17:50:05 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: Right 17:50:09 <nirik> dcr226: who? 17:50:21 <EvilBob> nirik: fedbot 17:50:22 <nirik> oh yeah. 17:50:24 <dcr226> nirik, the fedbot feedback spammer...we were going to switch it off for a bit 17:50:26 <nirik> we should do that now. 17:50:29 <cyberworm54> hello guys did the meting started yet? 17:50:29 <nirik> I just forgot. 17:50:30 <EvilBob> It's kind of late now 17:50:36 <nirik> cyberworm54: which meeting are you looking for? 17:50:46 <nirik> lets stop it now and turn it on release night eve. 17:50:54 <Sonar_Gal> nirik, +1 17:50:58 <cyberworm54> nirik infrastructure 17:50:58 <EvilBob> nirik: +1 17:51:05 <nirik> cyberworm54: in 9minutes here. 17:51:11 <EvilBob> cyberworm54: no this is the IRC SIG 17:51:12 <nirik> cyberworm54: so you are early. ;) 17:51:13 <cyberworm54> nirik thank you 17:51:30 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: back to your recap 17:51:41 <nirik> #agreed will stop feedback now and re-enable before release. 17:51:41 <nirik> Anything else? 17:52:06 <Sonar_Gal> EvilBob, the sig for op's powers 17:52:28 <EvilBob> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/108 Work on this week, vote on Thursday 17:52:35 <Sonar_Gal> correct 17:52:55 <EvilBob> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/107 Vote next week I will work on a wiki page for voting 17:53:15 <EvilBob> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/105 vote on Thursday 17:53:28 <EvilBob> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/112 Handled 17:53:34 <Khaytsus> Gotta run, meeting 17:53:49 <Sonar_Gal> that should cover it 17:53:51 <EvilBob> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/110 Let'em swing 17:54:10 <EvilBob> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/111 Closed, Dead Horse 17:54:18 <EvilBob> Put a bow on it 17:54:33 <Sonar_Gal> yeah 17:54:37 <Sonar_Gal> Lots to do this week 17:54:47 <Sonar_Gal> ok that should cover it 17:54:55 <EvilBob> s/this/every 17:54:57 <EvilBob> ;) 17:54:58 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone! 17:55:01 <nirik> #endmeeting
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