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anybody seen my "wherewithal"?
On 11/03/2011 02:57 AM, Chris Punches wrote:
Just so that I understand clearly, I missed your comment about users
you "associate with me" (interesting because I rarely, rarely speak
in that channel, but let's work with this for the sake of
understanding)-- it is okay for Mr. Jensen to disrupt your channel
but not the people you're referring to? I don't know about any
other disruptions but if you email me some logs I'll look into it if
it's someone from SILO. I can't be responsible for anybody else.
I do see that as a separate issue from Mr. Jensen's behavior and a
distraction from the fact that he regularly disrupts your channel
and abuses your users while it is being regularly overlooked and
treated as isolated events and I have a difficult time seeing how
that is tolerable in your otherwise mostly great community. I'd
like some kind of disciplinary action taken in the future leading up
to Bob Jensen's removal from the fedora channels and projects-- or
I'd like referred to the contact point of a SIG or persons that has
the authority (or wherewithal) to look into it.
If there weren't years of this kind of behavior with him I wouldn't
even know his name. Sorry that took 3 replies to say.
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 05:42, Chris Punches <punches.chris(a)gmail.com
<mailto:punches.chris@gmail.com>> wrote:
Also, it is certainly time for you guys to start considering
when "enough is enough" with Mr. Jensen and stop treating these
behaviors of his as isolated incidents. I'm pretty sure you are
old enough to know better (as is he).
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 05:40, Chris Punches
<punches.chris(a)gmail.com <mailto:punches.chris@gmail.com>> wrote:
I don't have a personal issue with him beyond his abuse of
users in your channel. I am constantly reading this abuse
through the SILO crowd. I am also constantly reading these
kinds of reports. Your channel is currently grossly
neglected at an administrative level and I believe you're
well aware of this.
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 22:23, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com
<mailto:kevin@scrye.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:09:42 -0400
Chris Punches <punches.chris(a)gmail.com
<mailto:punches.chris@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It is absolutely disgusting that this bjensen is so
continuously
> assigned as arbiter to these tickets when so many of
these complaints
> are about his own behavior. When are one of you guys
going to step
> in and get that guy out of there? This was obviously
yet another
> instance of a conflict of interest. The logs are
public for that
> channel iirc and we know bjensen was present for the
conversation
> that resulted in the complaint, so instead of posting
logs he just
> closes the ticket! How's that for accountability?
He did not close the ticket, simply commented.
You have an axe to grind with Bob. We get it.
You hate him. We get it.
Your contribution seems to be to wait until there is a
negative ticket
on him and pile on more negativity.
Right after this ticket was filed and you commented,
several folks that
I associate with you started disrupting the channel, as
well is a new
nick that I had never seen before. Such negativity and
ambulance
chasing are quite sad.
My suggestion would be for you to look at positive ways
to contribute
and let go whatever grudges you hold.
kevin
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