[irc-support-sig] #112: Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb)

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#112: Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb)
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Reporter:  bjensen   |       Owner:
    Type:  feedback  |      Status:  new
Priority:  critical  |   Milestone:  Fedora 14
 Version:            |    Severity:  Negative
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My IRC nick is: EvilBob

Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this
  ticket: User GapSpark was trying to insight hostility in the channel,
 help from channel ops was requested. nb who is not a #fedora op used his
 privileges on zodbot to kick the user.

Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: mutk
 kk4ewt GapSpark nb

Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on
  this feedback: op privileges on zodbot should be removed for all parties
 that are not ops for that channel. non-op (for that channel) nb should be
 suspended for improper use of ops.

Any additional notes or logs:

See attachment

Thanks for your feedback!

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#112: Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb)
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  Reporter:  bjensen   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 14
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by kevin):

Yeah, I think nb was trying to help here, but it just added to confusion.
 ;(

I've removed zodbot from the 'auto op' list, so it should no longer
 accidentally be left with ops.

I think nb meant well, but should refrain from actions like this moving
 forward.

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#112: Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb)
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  Reporter:  bjensen   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 14
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by bjensen):

Trying to help or not nb knows better. His abuse of the abilities he has
 using zodbot is not excusable. Actual operators for #fedora were active at
 the time.

zodbot being able to give people ops in #fedora or any of our other
 channels undermines the usefulness of the sig new operator process.

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#112: Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb)
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  Reporter:  bjensen   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 14
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by nb):

Yeah maybe I shouldn't have done it but at that time I didn't see any ops
 active until after I kicked him.

Bob: I think you are making a big deal out of nothing.  If I filed a
 ticket every time I disagreed with something you did as an op, the trac
 would be filled with tickets.  I know you don't like me but it'd be nice
 if we could still kind of get along.

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#112: Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb)
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  Reporter:  bjensen   |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback  |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical  |  Milestone:  Fedora 14
   Version:            |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:            |   Keywords:
Blocked By:            |   Blocking:
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Comment (by bjensen):

Replying to [comment:3 nb]:
> Yeah maybe I shouldn't have done it but at that time I didn't see any

ops active until after I kicked him.
> Bob: I think you are making a big deal out of nothing.  If I filed a

ticket every time I disagreed with something you did as an op, the trac
 would be filled with tickets.  I know you don't like me but it'd be nice
 if we could still kind of get along.
>

You didn't see any ops active, other than the fact you were in a
 conversation with kk4ewt as it happened and mutk was active in both
 #fedora and #fedora-ops.

This is NOT personal it is about zodbot having the ability to op people in
 our channels that should not be and about you abusing those privileges you
 have on zodbot. I rarely have to use my abilities as an op so for you to
 fill the trac with tickets, you would have to make things up and/or file
 multiple tickets for everything. Please don't make it personal.

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#112: Improper use of zodbot op abilities in #fedora (nb)
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  Reporter:  bjensen     |      Owner:
      Type:  feedback    |     Status:  closed
  Priority:  critical    |  Milestone:  Fedora 14
   Version:              |   Severity:  Negative
Resolution:  worksforme  |   Keywords:
Blocked By:              |   Blocking:
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Changes (by bjensen):

* status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => worksforme

Comment:

Meeting 2012-05-24

Discussed this ticket, zodbot's abilities to get ops and grant ops has
 been removed from our channels.

I think all agree that it was a poor choice in actions on nb's part but
 the intent was appreciated.

My personal hope would be that nb not be so quick to act in a similar
 manner it only reflects poorly on the SIG.

-- Bob