spins August 2008

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enabling audio on console-only livecd
by Don Raikes 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Hello, Using livecd-tools, I have created a console-based livecd (which works well for me since I am blind, and like working with console tools). There are several applications I would like to use which involve using sound. However, even though I included alsa-libs and alsa-utils on the cd, I have no sound available. Any suggestions on what else I need to do? Donald Raikes | Accessibility Specialist Phone: +16028246213 | Fax: +15207440826 | Mobile: +15202717608 Oracle JDeveloper QA ORACLE United States | | Tucson, Arizona "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail"

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Re: [Fedora-spins] Fedora Project Board Recap 2008-07-29
by Jeroen van Meeuwen 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

Paul W. Frields wrote: > = Fedora Project Board Meeting :: Tuesday 2008-07-29 = > (...snip...) > == Education Spin (NEW) == > * Education spin trademark usage approval requested here: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-July/msg00141.ht… > ** Only Fedora software included > ** This spin is a partnership between previously disparate groups > RESOLUTION: > # Board unanimously approves Education spin for use of "Fedora" marks. > Sebastian, ^^ there you go. This is the moment where your feature page becomes the point of reporting progress in any of the outstanding issues (kdm/generic-logos is now a moot point but I think the bug can still be pursued for obvious other reasons?), and to add it to the CategoryFeaturesProposedF10 (iirc). Thanks for your great work ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip

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Re: [Fedora-spins] When to rebrand fedora?
by Jeroen van Meeuwen 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 00:44 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: >> Bryan Kearney wrote: >>> In the same way that there is a generic-logos is there any reason to not >>> provide a generic-release? That way rebrandins is the following in the >>> kickstart file >>> >> We have not required fedora-release to not be on the rebranded system as >> of yet. Rebranding means removing the trademarked materials which are >> all in fedora-logos (except for /etc/fedora-release which is responsible >> for "Fedora" popping up in the little "Welcome to (...)!" message when >> you boot up. > > Wouldn't this make sense to do, though? Especially seeing as how the > name "Fedora" is part of the trademark. > I'm CC:'ing the Fedora Spins list for other people that might show interest in this discussion. To me it doesn't make sense removing fedora-release from a downstream distribution and then still say "based on Fedora" or "Fedora derivative". This, in my opinion, should not be a requirement. I'd like to enable people to do it anyway, with the click of a mouse, but it's not that simple at this point. Fwiw the Fedora Spin SIG only requires new spin concepts that do not yet have Board Approval to exclude fedora-logos from their package manifest. Requiring anything more then that also involves more work for the spin requester/maintainer (and a little more for the Spin SIG as well). How we handle fedora-release being the cause for "Welcome to (...)" is also a thread on -devel, and afaic is a cosmetic thing for downstream distributions, not a requirement from Fedora (IMO). Taking this a little further, the trademark policy can simply not require a downstream distribution to remove all occurrences of the Fedora trademark (as a string) from the entire system. Although I'd like to enable them to do so, it's simply not scalable to keep track of where the Fedora name might occur in a package name, file name or file contents. Since we're on the topic, I've also suggested on the "new trademark policy" wiki page[1], that rebranding should not be required in case you hand out a presentation or demo in case of an ISV, if you have built it upon Fedora and are simply handing it out to attendees of your session (which kinda equals to limited distribution, e.g. non-public). Same might apply to downstream vendors distributing appliances (like VMWare used to distribute .vmx files for some operating systems/distributions?) Anyway, these are just some of the thoughts that cross my mind drinking my first cup of coffee today... Let me know what you think ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/NewTrademarkGuidelines

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