[fedora-arm] Re: Possible deprecation/removal of Initial Setup from Fedora
All of the Arm disk images use initial-setup to configure the image.
There would need to a concrete plan on how to manage the transition to
something else.
Dennis
On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 6:35 AM Jiri Konecny <jkonecny(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> We (anaconda team) are considering discontinuation of the Anaconda's
> Initial Setup[0] tool, which is not related to Gnome Initial Setup. Here
> is a list of the reasons:
>
> * The relationship between the installer and the Initial Setup is very
> fragile. It is easy to break the Initial Setup by changes in the
> installer or break the installer while we are trying to fix the support
> for the Initial Setup. The shared code is complex as a result and it
> complicates development and maintenance of both projects.
>
> * As we had higher priority items to work on, the codebase is not in an
> ideal state and the upstream repository doesn't even have a proper
> automated CI. Fixing all these issues would take a lot of our resources
> that we would like to spent on improving the installer instead.
>
> * The Initial Setup tool is unnecessarily complicated. Since it shares
> code with the installer, it has to adapt to many limitations and
> requirements of the installation environment. It doesn't use the full
> potential of the installed system, because the installer can't. It
> postpones all actions until the end of the configuration, because the
> installer has to. It doesn't offer the best user experience for the
> first boot configuration, because it is designed to reuse parts of an
> installer. It drags Anaconda into the installed systems.
>
> * There are already alternatives: Gnome Initial Setup,
> systemd-firstboot, and preparation for KDE solution of initial setup. So
> the ecosystem changed from the time when Initial Setup was introduced.
> We think that these alternatives are able to give you a better solution.
>
>
> Before taking any action, we would like to understand your use-cases to
> find out how we can help you to make the transition smoother and also to
> find out how much time you would need for migration.
>
> Is Anaconda Initial Setup important for your project or workflow? What
> functionality is absolutely necessary for you? Do you use the text mode
> or the graphical mode? Are you aware of any alternatives? Is there
> anything that would prevent you from migrating to one of the proposed
> alternatives? Also please feel free to share this mail to any relevant
> groups.
>
> [0]: https://github.com/rhinstaller/initial-setup
>
> Best Regards,
> Anaconda team
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