On 04/08/2011 08:07 AM, Tim Flink wrote:
On 04/08/2011 01:01 AM, Kamil Paral wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I happened to be going through the upgradepath results for F15
>> today and I'm seeing a lot of builds with stale tags (~50 so far
>> and I'm not done). If we re-enable comments before these builds are
>> taken care of, we're going to be adding a lot more comments to old
>> builds again.
>
> These are bad news. If lmacken doesn't take care of that soon, I'm
> afraid we will have to postpone re-enabling of bodhi comments. The
> other approach is to write an explanation to the announcement,
> explain how to recognize stale koji tag from some autoqa bug and ask
> people to ignore comments for stable builds for now.
>
> What do you think?
I guess that I'm for a bit of both, more of the waiting as long as
reasonable to make sure that the tags are taken care of.
Obviously, I'd rather see the stale tags taken care of before we enable
bodhi comments again. Maybe the Fedora community is better about this,
but the thought process I've seen elsewhere is like "Why is AutoQA
commenting this old build? It must be a broken piece of SW, I'm not sure
that we can trust it" regardless of whether or not an explanation is
sent over email.
If we can keep the signal/noise ratio up as high as possible, that would
be awesome.
On the bright side, all of the builds that I've found so far are old
(most were pushed to stable 2011-03-06 to 2011-03-08) so I'm pretty sure
that the root cause has been taken care of in bodhi and koji. We just
need to make sure that everything was cleaned up.
For now, let's see what lmacken says and hold off on any decision to
enable or not enable comments until Monday. I assume that we'll hear
back from him today at some point and he has been very responsive to
this kind of stuff so far.
Tim
As an update, I talked to lmacken today and he's looking into the stale
koji tags even though he's on PTO today.
Looking at the upgradecheck results, I don't think that all the tags
have been fixed yet but I will send out more information when I have it.
If anyone is interested in what I was running, the results and crappy
script I was running are up at
http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/tag_reports/
When I last ran it, there were 106 builds with stale tags that would be
commented improperly if we re-enable bodhi comments.
Tim