Fedora 18 doesn't have ifconfig in the installer (and perhaps not in installed system), need to use ip.
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Orion Poplawski orion@cora.nwra.com wrote:
Fedora 18 doesn't have ifconfig in the installer (and perhaps not in installed system), need to use ip.
What branch did you create this against? It did not apply to master. Can you rebase this against master and resend it?
On 10/17/2012 03:39 PM, James Cammarata wrote:
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Orion Poplawski orion@cora.nwra.com wrote:
Fedora 18 doesn't have ifconfig in the installer (and perhaps not in installed system), need to use ip.
What branch did you create this against? It did not apply to master. Can you rebase this against master and resend it?
How is this?
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Orion Poplawski orion@cora.nwra.com wrote:
How is this?
Still no good unfortunately (ignore the trailing whitespace errors):
# git apply 0001-Use-ip-instead-of-ifconfig.patch 0001-Use-ip-instead-of-ifconfig.patch:23: trailing whitespace. IFNAME=$(ip -o link | grep -i '$mac' | sed -e 's/^[0-9]*: //' -e 's/:.*//') 0001-Use-ip-instead-of-ifconfig.patch:36: trailing whitespace. if ip link | grep -i $mac 0001-Use-ip-instead-of-ifconfig.patch:42: trailing whitespace. IFNAME=$(ip -o link | grep -i '$mac' | sed -e 's/^[0-9]*: //' -e 's/:.*//') error: patch failed: snippets/post_install_network_config:142 error: snippets/post_install_network_config: patch does not apply error: patch failed: snippets/pre_install_network_config:86 error: snippets/pre_install_network_config: patch does not apply
On 10/19/2012 07:41 PM, James Cammarata wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Orion Poplawski orion@cora.nwra.com wrote:
How is this?
Still no good unfortunately (ignore the trailing whitespace errors):
# git apply 0001-Use-ip-instead-of-ifconfig.patch 0001-Use-ip-instead-of-ifconfig.patch:23: trailing whitespace. IFNAME=$(ip -o link | grep -i '$mac' | sed -e 's/^[0-9]*: //' -e 's/:.*//') 0001-Use-ip-instead-of-ifconfig.patch:36: trailing whitespace. if ip link | grep -i $mac 0001-Use-ip-instead-of-ifconfig.patch:42: trailing whitespace. IFNAME=$(ip -o link | grep -i '$mac' | sed -e 's/^[0-9]*: //' -e 's/:.*//') error: patch failed: snippets/post_install_network_config:142 error: snippets/post_install_network_config: patch does not apply error: patch failed: snippets/pre_install_network_config:86 error: snippets/pre_install_network_config: patch does not apply
I don't know what to say. It applies fine for me to a freshly cloned git repo from git://github.com/cobbler/cobbler
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Orion Poplawski orion@cora.nwra.com wrote:
I don't know what to say. It applies fine for me to a freshly cloned git repo from git://github.com/cobbler/cobbler
Found a small problem with this. Apparently despite the fact that the OS has had the ip command for quite a while, it is not included even in the F17 installer image. I've attached a patch which uses some bash functions to figure out which command to use, and wraps the calls in a nice way. If you could give it a little testing I'd appreciate it (testing it out on f18 alpha now myself).
On 11/02/2012 06:44 AM, James Cammarata wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Orion Poplawski orion@cora.nwra.com wrote:
I don't know what to say. It applies fine for me to a freshly cloned git repo from git://github.com/cobbler/cobbler
Found a small problem with this. Apparently despite the fact that the OS has had the ip command for quite a while, it is not included even in the F17 installer image. I've attached a patch which uses some bash functions to figure out which command to use, and wraps the calls in a nice way. If you could give it a little testing I'd appreciate it (testing it out on f18 alpha now myself).
I guess that's what you get for assuming - I thought if the EL6 installer had it, Fedora would have, but there you go.
One note - you are redirecting the output of the ip command, but not ifconfig. Seems inconsistent.
Anyways, works for me with F17 and F18.
Found a small problem with this. Apparently despite the fact that the OS has had the ip command for quite a while, it is not included even in the F17 installer image. I've attached a patch which uses some bash functions to figure out which command to use, and wraps the calls in a nice way. If you could give it a little testing I'd appreciate it (testing it out on f18 alpha now myself).
I guess that's what you get for assuming - I thought if the EL6 installer had it, Fedora would have, but there you go.
One note - you are redirecting the output of the ip command, but not ifconfig. Seems inconsistent.
Anyways, works for me with F17 and F18.
Yeah definitely my bad for not checking the installer had it. Anyway, my signature branch now has full support for F18 in it, and it's importing and building systems successfully using the beta TC6 ISO:
https://github.com/jimi1283/cobbler/tree/signature http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/18-Beta-TC6/Fedora/x86_64/iso/
There are still a ton of issues with F18 in general though. Just found out tonight that they're doing away with the base comps group, so the sample_end.ks is basically an extremely minimal install that's missing a LOT of stuff.
On 15.10.2012 [11:22:27 -0600], Orion Poplawski wrote:
Fedora 18 doesn't have ifconfig in the installer (and perhaps not in installed system), need to use ip.
Did you ensure this works as expected on older Fedora too? Is it better to use ifconfig when present (as it's tested) and switch to ip only when ifconfig isn't there?
Thanks, Nish
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From a5fb8831b0370cc363d8b293c67935901ac85062 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Orion Poplawski orion@nwra.com Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:14:54 -0600 Subject: [PATCH] Up ip instead of ifconfig
snippets/post_install_network_config | 2 +- snippets/pre_install_network_config | 4 ++-- 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/snippets/post_install_network_config b/snippets/post_install_network_config index 6821c6f..4acd4b8 100644 --- a/snippets/post_install_network_config +++ b/snippets/post_install_network_config @@ -138,7 +138,7 @@ echo "ONBOOT=yes" >> $devfile #if $mac != "" and $iface_type not in ("master","bond","bridge") ## virtual interfaces don't get MACs echo "HWADDR=$mac" >> $devfile -IFNAME=$(ifconfig -a | grep -i '$mac' | cut -d ' ' -f 1) +IFNAME=$(ip -o link | grep -i '$mac' | sed -e 's/^[0-9]*: //' -e 's/:.*//') ## Rename this interface in modprobe.conf ## FIXME: if both interfaces startwith eth this is wrong if [ -f "/etc/modprobe.conf" ] && [ $IFNAME ]; then diff --git a/snippets/pre_install_network_config b/snippets/pre_install_network_config index 8bb3495..10c5405 100644 --- a/snippets/pre_install_network_config +++ b/snippets/pre_install_network_config @@ -76,9 +76,9 @@ #set $netinfo = "%s --hostname=%s" % ($netinfo, $hostname) #end if # Configuring $iname ($mac) -if ifconfig -a | grep -i $mac +if ip link | grep -i $mac then
- IFNAME=$(ifconfig -a | grep -i '$mac' | cut -d " " -f 1)
- IFNAME=$(ip -o link | grep -i '$mac' | sed -e 's/^[0-9]*: //' -e 's/:.*//') echo "network --device=$IFNAME $netinfo" >> /tmp/pre_install_network_config #for $route in $static_routes #if $routepattern.match($route)
-- 1.7.11.7
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On 10/17/2012 03:50 PM, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
On 15.10.2012 [11:22:27 -0600], Orion Poplawski wrote:
Fedora 18 doesn't have ifconfig in the installer (and perhaps not in installed system), need to use ip.
Did you ensure this works as expected on older Fedora too? Is it better to use ifconfig when present (as it's tested) and switch to ip only when ifconfig isn't there?
I have not tested on older Fedora, but you're using ip already to set the route, so it is present. And ip on RHEL5 has the -o option, so I think shifting to ip is the way to go. It's easier to parse.
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From a5fb8831b0370cc363d8b293c67935901ac85062 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Orion Poplawski orion@nwra.com Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:14:54 -0600 Subject: [PATCH] Up ip instead of ifconfig
snippets/post_install_network_config | 2 +- snippets/pre_install_network_config | 4 ++-- 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/snippets/post_install_network_config b/snippets/post_install_network_config index 6821c6f..4acd4b8 100644 --- a/snippets/post_install_network_config +++ b/snippets/post_install_network_config @@ -138,7 +138,7 @@ echo "ONBOOT=yes" >> $devfile #if $mac != "" and $iface_type not in ("master","bond","bridge") ## virtual interfaces don't get MACs echo "HWADDR=$mac" >> $devfile -IFNAME=$(ifconfig -a | grep -i '$mac' | cut -d ' ' -f 1) +IFNAME=$(ip -o link | grep -i '$mac' | sed -e 's/^[0-9]*: //' -e 's/:.*//') ## Rename this interface in modprobe.conf ## FIXME: if both interfaces startwith eth this is wrong if [ -f "/etc/modprobe.conf" ] && [ $IFNAME ]; then diff --git a/snippets/pre_install_network_config b/snippets/pre_install_network_config index 8bb3495..10c5405 100644 --- a/snippets/pre_install_network_config +++ b/snippets/pre_install_network_config @@ -76,9 +76,9 @@ #set $netinfo = "%s --hostname=%s" % ($netinfo, $hostname) #end if # Configuring $iname ($mac) -if ifconfig -a | grep -i $mac +if ip link | grep -i $mac then
- IFNAME=$(ifconfig -a | grep -i '$mac' | cut -d " " -f 1)
- IFNAME=$(ip -o link | grep -i '$mac' | sed -e 's/^[0-9]*: //' -e 's/:.*//') echo "network --device=$IFNAME $netinfo" >> /tmp/pre_install_network_config #for $route in $static_routes #if $routepattern.match($route)
-- 1.7.11.7
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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Orion Poplawski orion@cora.nwra.com wrote:
On 10/17/2012 03:50 PM, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
On 15.10.2012 [11:22:27 -0600], Orion Poplawski wrote:
Fedora 18 doesn't have ifconfig in the installer (and perhaps not in installed system), need to use ip.
Did you ensure this works as expected on older Fedora too? Is it better to use ifconfig when present (as it's tested) and switch to ip only when ifconfig isn't there?
I have not tested on older Fedora, but you're using ip already to set the route, so it is present. And ip on RHEL5 has the -o option, so I think shifting to ip is the way to go. It's easier to parse.
The ip command has been around for a while, I've used it as early RHEL 4, so this change should work for just about any distro.
On 10/17/2012 06:05 PM, James Cammarata wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Orion Poplawski orion@cora.nwra.com wrote:
On 10/17/2012 03:50 PM, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
On 15.10.2012 [11:22:27 -0600], Orion Poplawski wrote:
Fedora 18 doesn't have ifconfig in the installer (and perhaps not in installed system), need to use ip.
Did you ensure this works as expected on older Fedora too? Is it better to use ifconfig when present (as it's tested) and switch to ip only when ifconfig isn't there?
I have not tested on older Fedora, but you're using ip already to set the route, so it is present. And ip on RHEL5 has the -o option, so I think shifting to ip is the way to go. It's easier to parse.
The ip command has been around for a while, I've used it as early RHEL 4, so this change should work for just about any distro.
Did you use it in the installer? post_install_network_config snippet is run on installed system in chrooted environment, so it should not be a problem. However, pre_install_network_config is run inside of anaconda - we want to make sure it is available there for the versions that cobbler supports.
Leon
On 17.10.2012 [17:05:47 -0500], James Cammarata wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Orion Poplawski orion@cora.nwra.com wrote:
On 10/17/2012 03:50 PM, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
On 15.10.2012 [11:22:27 -0600], Orion Poplawski wrote:
Fedora 18 doesn't have ifconfig in the installer (and perhaps not in installed system), need to use ip.
Did you ensure this works as expected on older Fedora too? Is it better to use ifconfig when present (as it's tested) and switch to ip only when ifconfig isn't there?
I have not tested on older Fedora, but you're using ip already to set the route, so it is present. And ip on RHEL5 has the -o option, so I think shifting to ip is the way to go. It's easier to parse.
The ip command has been around for a while, I've used it as early RHEL 4, so this change should work for just about any distro.
Fair enough, mostly just wondered what the testing coverage was. Thanks!
-Nish
On 10/17/2012 03:50 PM, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
On 15.10.2012 [11:22:27 -0600], Orion Poplawski wrote:
Fedora 18 doesn't have ifconfig in the installer (and perhaps not in installed system), need to use ip.
Did you ensure this works as expected on older Fedora too? Is it better to use ifconfig when present (as it's tested) and switch to ip only when ifconfig isn't there?
Actually, I've been installing EL6 with it, so it should work with any older Fedora as well.
I have finally moved to a bigger place. Now I finally have some space to setup a home test lab for testing various cobbler related ideas. Currently, my new place has AT&T Uverse Internet service, a 2Wire 3600HGV Router, I have also got a few notebooks and netbooks as my first set of test hardware. Nearly all of them run Linux (CentOS, SL, Ubuntu, and Fedora), only one runs Windows XP/Home SP3.
I am sure that I am not the only who want to have a home-based test lab :-) For these who have gone down this route, do you mind sharing a bit of your setup? I am most interested in getting some cost-effective hardware for my own "small lab". I have got a few notebooks. Very proficient in RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu, and KVM.
Regards,
--Zack.
Zach,
I definitely do this at home. I suppose you could call it a small lab - but I do more than test stuff in that I spin up VMs for normal work-level stuff (some tinkering, some to support my open source projects)...
I do switch servers/hardware around a lot. Lately, I've been on a power-less kick, trying to utilize the minimum amount of power I can but still do the most with what I have (and only turn on my power hungry boxes when need be)...
My current setup is:
- DLInk DNS-320 NAS (two 256 GB sata drives). Runs Debian squeeze and is my DNS, DHCP (internal to house) DDNS box (so my VMs/bare metal can register their names with DNS), NFS and Samba server. Also is a TFTP server for PXE booting my bare metal.
- Acer Aspire pos (piece of bleep) laptop. Runs CentOS 5.8 centosplus Xen and is my Cobbler and Puppet server. Also sports a CI VM (CentOS 6.3) (specifically Jenkins) and sometimes other various low requirement VMs.
- Dell Latitude CPx-something-or-other pos laptop (1.2 GHz model w/ 512 MB RAM). Runs CentOS 5.8 bare metal mostly for a side display using synergy controlled from my work laptop (when I work from home).
- Two Dell Precision 470's running CentOS 5.8 Xen centosplus as hosts for VMs - each has 4GB RAM.
- One Sun 64-bit early generation dual opteron box - running CentOS 5.8 Xen centosplus as hosts for VMs. Has 8GB RAM.
- Have a P4 box with what I believe is a broken IDE controller. Am looking into doing diskless boots with it, but haven't spent too much time on that yet...hope to sometime soon :)
Interestingly enough I am NFS mounting a TFTP dir from my NAS but having Cobbler pos laptop write out the PXE magic to that dir...
I call it my top-of-the-line server room circa 96 :)
I can spin up a ton of VMs on the "better" boxes. None of what I have supports full virtualization - I'm stuck using paravirtualization. However, CentOS 5.8 as a host OS is definitely fine for my needs. Everything also runs puppet for configuration. I provision all my VMs using KOAN, and bare metal using PXE off the Cobbler pos laptop...
Flossy
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From: "Zack Perry" zack.perry@sbcglobal.net To: cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 9:06:33 PM Subject: [cobbler] Ideal home test lab setup for testing out cobbler?
I have finally moved to a bigger place. Now I finally have some space to setup a home test lab for testing various cobbler related ideas. Currently, my new place has AT&T Uverse Internet service, a 2Wire 3600HGV Router, I have also got a few notebooks and netbooks as my first set of test hardware. Nearly all of them run Linux (CentOS, SL, Ubuntu, and Fedora), only one runs Windows XP/Home SP3.
I am sure that I am not the only who want to have a home-based test lab :-) For these who have gone down this route, do you mind sharing a bit of your setup? I am most interested in getting some cost-effective hardware for my own "small lab". I have got a few notebooks. Very proficient in RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu, and KVM.
Regards,
--Zack. _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org https://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Zack Perry zack.perry@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I have finally moved to a bigger place. Now I finally have some space to setup a home test lab for testing various cobbler related ideas. Currently, my new place has AT&T Uverse Internet service, a 2Wire 3600HGV Router, I have also got a few notebooks and netbooks as my first set of test hardware. Nearly all of them run Linux (CentOS, SL, Ubuntu, and Fedora), only one runs Windows XP/Home SP3.
I am sure that I am not the only who want to have a home-based test lab :-) For these who have gone down this route, do you mind sharing a bit of your setup? I am most interested in getting some cost-effective hardware for my own "small lab". I have got a few notebooks. Very proficient in RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu, and KVM.
This is actually pretty close to my home setup network-wise. My main system currently is an AMD 6 core running SL6 (8GB RAM, 1.5TB disks), which I use to deploy kvm guests for testing cobbler development. Any system like that should be more than capable of testing cobbler in basic setups.
Hi I can't really comment in detail about hardware. For most stuff ram is probably better to have than CPU in terms of virtualization and fast storage and/or more or at least one controller card for disks.
I run ESXi 5 and intend to update it to 5.1 which should give me the new web based admin. Not sure if that is part of esxi. I run all my VMs on two networks. A private network interconnect between the machines and a "management" network that allows me to be able to ssh to the boxes that is connected to a network card and my home router which also does the dhcp.
My pico cent's worth.
Regards
On 3 November 2012 01:06, Zack Perry zack.perry@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I have finally moved to a bigger place. Now I finally have some space to setup a home test lab for testing various cobbler related ideas. Currently, my new place has AT&T Uverse Internet service, a 2Wire 3600HGV Router, I have also got a few notebooks and netbooks as my first set of test hardware. Nearly all of them run Linux (CentOS, SL, Ubuntu, and Fedora), only one runs Windows XP/Home SP3.
I am sure that I am not the only who want to have a home-based test lab :-) For these who have gone down this route, do you mind sharing a bit of your setup? I am most interested in getting some cost-effective hardware for my own "small lab". I have got a few notebooks. Very proficient in RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu, and KVM.
Regards,
--Zack. _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org https://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Gerhardus Geldenhuis gerhardus.geldenhuis@gmail.com wrote:
Hi I can't really comment in detail about hardware. For most stuff ram is probably better to have than CPU in terms of virtualization and fast storage and/or more or at least one controller card for disks.
I agree, disk space and speed are probably the most important areas to focus with cobbler. Like a database, avoid RAID5 (stick with 1 or 0+1). Unless you're dealing with 1000+ systems SATA disks should be sufficient. If you're building a lot of systems simultaneously, more RAM and faster 10-15K disks would help too, but I doubt that'd be the case with most lab setups.
Another interesting idea... which might or might not work is to buy a few raspberry pi s and connect each to a HD and all of them to a fast switch. Then use Ceph file system to do distributed storage. http://ceph.com/
Regards
On 4 November 2012 18:10, James Cammarata jimi@sngx.net wrote:
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Gerhardus Geldenhuis gerhardus.geldenhuis@gmail.com wrote:
Hi I can't really comment in detail about hardware. For most stuff ram is probably better to have than CPU in terms of virtualization and fast
storage
and/or more or at least one controller card for disks.
I agree, disk space and speed are probably the most important areas to focus with cobbler. Like a database, avoid RAID5 (stick with 1 or 0+1). Unless you're dealing with 1000+ systems SATA disks should be sufficient. If you're building a lot of systems simultaneously, more RAM and faster 10-15K disks would help too, but I doubt that'd be the case with most lab setups. _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org https://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
Talking about shared storage, why not use the HekaFS or GlusterFS (both basically the same) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HekaFS or http://www.gluster.org/. Red Hat owns it, Fedora has it OOTB. I have tried it at work, and based on my limited experience, it seems to be decent. An OT: why this thread is not archived in the http://www.mail-archive.com/cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org/? Anyone has an idea? -- Zack
Another interesting idea... which might or might not work is to buy a few raspberry pi s and connect each to a HD and all of them to a fast switch. Then use Ceph file system to do distributed storage. http://ceph.com/
Regards
[...]
I run a mixture of kit, briefly as follows:
2 x Intel Atom D525 running Citrix Xenserver (free version) with shared storage via DRBD
2. x Core i3 running Centos 6.3, KVM and Cluster suite with shared storage via DRBD
1 x Celeron 1Ghz laptop with 1GB RAM running Fedora 18 xfce destop (runs very well for me)
My cobbler server is a KVM guest with one virtual CPU and 512MB RAM. It has worked perfectly fine for me when building guests with cobbler / koan.
Other services I run virtualised are postfix, DNS, NTP, apache, bacula, squid. I tend to run a service in it's own guest OS (Centos 6).
My home network is GB with a Belkin wireless router.
On 04/11/2012 16:44, Gerhardus Geldenhuis wrote:
Hi I can't really comment in detail about hardware. For most stuff ram is probably better to have than CPU in terms of virtualization and fast storage and/or more or at least one controller card for disks.
I run ESXi 5 and intend to update it to 5.1 which should give me the new web based admin. Not sure if that is part of esxi. I run all my VMs on two networks. A private network interconnect between the machines and a "management" network that allows me to be able to ssh to the boxes that is connected to a network card and my home router which also does the dhcp.
My pico cent's worth.
Regards
On 3 November 2012 01:06, Zack Perry <zack.perry@sbcglobal.net mailto:zack.perry@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I have finally moved to a bigger place. Now I finally have some space to setup a home test lab for testing various cobbler related ideas. Currently, my new place has AT&T Uverse Internet service, a 2Wire 3600HGV Router, I have also got a few notebooks and netbooks as my first set of test hardware. Nearly all of them run Linux (CentOS, SL, Ubuntu, and Fedora), only one runs Windows XP/Home SP3. I am sure that I am not the only who want to have a home-based test lab :-) For these who have gone down this route, do you mind sharing a bit of your setup? I am most interested in getting some cost-effective hardware for my own "small lab". I have got a few notebooks. Very proficient in RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu, and KVM. Regards, --Zack. _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org <mailto:cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org> https://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler-- Gerhardus Geldenhuis
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