ris-linux review pending

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Hi,

It would mean a great deal for me if someone would be able to pick up
the review of "ris-linux", currently pending at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469052

This would enable us to make a step forward in the process of
integrating Cobbler and provisioning that-other-operating-system. I have
it up and running of course, but having it properly packaged means other
people get to play with it, too.

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
- -kanarip
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
>
> iEYEARECAAYFAkk4KnAACgkQKN6f2pNCvwjeSwCgs2vFfBPTl7oMelgH60B4G+GK
> meIAoM1zPaAKPenXAH1TpRPM/FWpb7X6
> =f95A
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

[Michael DeHaan]

Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>  Hash: SHA1
>
>  Hi,
>
>  It would mean a great deal for me if someone would be able to pick up
>  the review of "ris-linux", currently pending at
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469052
>
>  This would enable us to make a step forward in the process of
>  integrating Cobbler and provisioning that-other-operating-system. I have
>  it up and running of course, but having it properly packaged means other
>  people get to play with it, too.
>
>  Kind regards,
>
>  Jeroen van Meeuwen
>  - -kanarip
> >  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >  Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
> >
> >  iEYEARECAAYFAkk4KnAACgkQKN6f2pNCvwjeSwCgs2vFfBPTl7oMelgH60B4G+GK
> >  meIAoM1zPaAKPenXAH1TpRPM/FWpb7X6
> >  =f95A
> >  -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 
>  _______________________________________________
>  cobbler mailing list
>  cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
>     
+1000 bonus points to anyone who wants to take this.

Imagine deploying windows desktops/servers with cobbler managed DHCP, 
DNS, and answer files, and never having to visit a Linux machine.

Just think of the possibilities, folks :)

--Michael

[James Cammarata]

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:12:44 -0500, Michael DeHaan <mdehaan(a)redhat.com&gt;
wrote:
>  Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It would mean a great deal for me if someone would be able to pick up
> > the review of "ris-linux", currently pending at
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469052
> >
> > This would enable us to make a step forward in the process of
> > integrating Cobbler and provisioning that-other-operating-system. I have
> > it up and running of course, but having it properly packaged means other
> > people get to play with it, too.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Jeroen van Meeuwen
> > - -kanarip
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
> > >
> > > iEYEARECAAYFAkk4KnAACgkQKN6f2pNCvwjeSwCgs2vFfBPTl7oMelgH60B4G+GK
> > > meIAoM1zPaAKPenXAH1TpRPM/FWpb7X6
> > > =f95A
> > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 
> >
> _______________________________________________
> > cobbler mailing list
> > cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
> > https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
> >
>  
>  +1000 bonus points to anyone who wants to take this.
>  
>  Imagine deploying windows desktops/servers with cobbler managed DHCP,
>  DNS, and answer files, and never having to visit a Linux machine.
>  
>  Just think of the possibilities, folks :)
>  
>  --Michael 
I am looking at this right now, as I have an XP CD laying around not doing
anything.  The main issue I see is that we would either have to have a
dependency on the ris-linux package, or just distribute it with cobbler. 
Also, it would probably be best to integrate the daemon that it runs with
cobblerd in order to reduce the number of processes that people need to
start up (that would definitely require packing it).

Finally, would we be looking at adding a manage_samba option then, since
this requires packages to be shared via a CIFS mount?  Some extra checks
could be added to "cobbler check" to verify that's all installed.

Beyond that, the generation of response files is mainly what I wrote the
templated config stuff for, so it should be fairly simple to implement this
as an import :)

Thoughts?


-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.

[Michael DeHaan]

James Cammarata wrote:
>  On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:12:44 -0500, Michael DeHaan
> <mdehaan(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  wrote:
>    
> > Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> >     
> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >> Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> It would mean a great deal for me if someone would be able to pick up
> >> the review of "ris-linux", currently pending at
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469052
> >>
> >> This would enable us to make a step forward in the process of
> >> integrating Cobbler and provisioning that-other-operating-system. I have
> >> it up and running of course, but having it properly packaged means other
> >> people get to play with it, too.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Jeroen van Meeuwen
> >> - -kanarip
> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
> > >>
> > >> iEYEARECAAYFAkk4KnAACgkQKN6f2pNCvwjeSwCgs2vFfBPTl7oMelgH60B4G+GK
> > >> meIAoM1zPaAKPenXAH1TpRPM/FWpb7X6
> > >> =f95A
> > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 
> >>
> _______________________________________________
> >> cobbler mailing list
> >> cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
> >> https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
> >>
> >>       
> > +1000 bonus points to anyone who wants to take this.
> >
> > Imagine deploying windows desktops/servers with cobbler managed DHCP,
> > DNS, and answer files, and never having to visit a Linux machine.
> >
> > Just think of the possibilities, folks :)
> >
> > --Michael
> >     
>
>  I am looking at this right now, as I have an XP CD laying around not doing
>  anything.  The main issue I see is that we would either have to have a
>  dependency on the ris-linux package, or just distribute it with cobbler. 
>     
I don't think so. We can do things such as just use it if 
present/configurable, as we do with things like
ISC/BIND/dnsmasq support in Cobbler.

>  Also, it would probably be best to integrate the daemon that it runs
> with
>  cobblerd in order to reduce the number of processes that people need to
>  start up (that would definitely require packing it).
>     
The restart-services trigger could choose to restart it if is present.
>  Finally, would we be looking at adding a manage_samba option then,
> since
>  this requires packages to be shared via a CIFS mount?  Some extra checks
>  could be added to "cobbler check" to verify that's all installed.
>     
I would need to look at this further to tell. Haven't done so yet, but 
in general it's not managing
samba generically but only for it's own purposes.

I can see this having additional manual setup requirements and maybe a 
boolean in settings
to enable it, plus some extra Wiki docs. TBD.

>  Beyond that, the generation of response files is mainly what I wrote
> the
>  templated config stuff for, so it should be fairly simple to implement this
>  as an import :)
>     
We might be able to treat them as an answer file directly (--kickstart) 
for the most part. If they have more than
one file to generate, then yes.
>  Thoughts?
>
>
>

[James Cammarata]

> > Finally, would we be looking at adding a manage_samba option
> then, since
> > this requires packages to be shared via a CIFS mount?  Some extra checks
> > could be added to "cobbler check" to verify that's all installed.
> >
>  
>  I would need to look at this further to tell. Haven't done so yet, but
>  in general it's not managing
>  samba generically but only for it's own purposes.
>  
>  I can see this having additional manual setup requirements and maybe a
>  boolean in settings
>  to enable it, plus some extra Wiki docs. TBD. 
That's what I was thinking, another boolean with a templated config file
for samba available in /etc/cobbler.  This would put it in-line with dhcpd.
 


> > Beyond that, the generation of response files is mainly what I
> wrote the
> > templated config stuff for, so it should be fairly simple to implement
>  this
> > as an import :)
> >
>  
>  We might be able to treat them as an answer file directly (--kickstart)
>  for the most part. If they have more than
>  one file to generate, then yes. 
The issue here is the same as it is with Solaris: the file needs to be
present on a share and can't be created on the fly - so it would have to be
created during a sync.  We could specify that the --kickstart file is the
basis for this, but it would have to be generated on a sync (preferably
only on a lite sync).

-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

James Cammarata wrote:
>  I am looking at this right now, as I have an XP CD laying around not
> doing
>  anything.  The main issue I see is that we would either have to have a
>  dependency on the ris-linux package, or just distribute it with cobbler.  
Cobbler can just complain about a missing ris-linux package if and when 
a Windows installation DVD is consumed.

-Jeroen

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  It would mean a great deal for me if someone would be able to pick up
>  the review of "ris-linux", currently pending at
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469052
>   
Bumping an old thread but I wanted to let you know ris-linux is now in 
updates-testing for Fedora 9 and 10, as well as EPEL-5's testing repository.

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip

[Michael DeHaan]

Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>  Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>    
> > Hi,
> >
> > It would mean a great deal for me if someone would be able to pick up
> > the review of "ris-linux", currently pending at
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469052
> >
> >     
>
>  Bumping an old thread but I wanted to let you know ris-linux is now in 
>  updates-testing for Fedora 9 and 10, as well as EPEL-5's testing repository.
>
>  Kind regards,
>
>  Jeroen van Meeuwen
>  -kanarip
>  _______________________________________________
>  cobbler mailing list
>  cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
>     
Outstanding.

FWIW, all the scary stuff I was talking about to the codebase in terms 
of SQL modifications and so forth isn't happening, so nothing is holding 
up further work on the linux-ris integration.

Full steam ahead!

--Michael

[Jared Hodge]

I've done a little looking around on this, but it's not clear what the
status is of ris-linux integration into cobbler.  Is anyone actively
working on this?  It would be good if there was a blurb about this on
the wiki somewhere obvious.  I was just talking with my VP recently
about how he wants us to automate xp installs the way I've automated the
linux installs with cobbler (or at least just serve them out over the
network).  Having cobbler serve as a one-stop-shop for automated OS
installs (other than your M$ license vendor) would be very helpful to me
and probably many others.  Thanks.

-Jared


-----Original Message-----
From: cobbler-bounces(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Michael
DeHaan
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:42 AM
To: cobbler mailing list
Subject: Re: ris-linux review pending

Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>  Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>    
> > Hi,
> >
> > It would mean a great deal for me if someone would be able to pick up
> > the review of "ris-linux", currently pending at
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469052
> >
> >     
>
>  Bumping an old thread but I wanted to let you know ris-linux is now in 
>  updates-testing for Fedora 9 and 10, as well as EPEL-5's testing
repository.
>  Kind regards,
>
>  Jeroen van Meeuwen
>  -kanarip
>  _______________________________________________
>  cobbler mailing list
>  cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
>     
Outstanding.

FWIW, all the scary stuff I was talking about to the codebase in terms 
of SQL modifications and so forth isn't happening, so nothing is holding

up further work on the linux-ris integration.

Full steam ahead!

--Michael


_______________________________________________
cobbler mailing list
cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Jared Hodge wrote:
>  I've done a little looking around on this, but it's not clear
> what the
>  status is of ris-linux integration into cobbler.  Is anyone actively
>  working on this?  It would be good if there was a blurb about this on
>  the wiki somewhere obvious.  I was just talking with my VP recently
>  about how he wants us to automate xp installs the way I've automated the
>  linux installs with cobbler (or at least just serve them out over the
>  network).  Having cobbler serve as a one-stop-shop for automated OS
>  installs (other than your M$ license vendor) would be very helpful to me
>  and probably many others.  Thanks.
>   
James Cammarata primarily is working on Windows XP and 2003 automated 
installation, whereas I am exploring opportunities for Vista.

We're both on IRC most of the time, so if you're interested ;-)

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip

[James Cammarata]

>  Jared Hodge wrote:
> > I've done a little looking around on this, but it's not clear what the
> > status is of ris-linux integration into cobbler.  Is anyone actively
> > working on this?  It would be good if there was a blurb about this on
> > the wiki somewhere obvious.  I was just talking with my VP recently
> > about how he wants us to automate xp installs the way I've automated the
> > linux installs with cobbler (or at least just serve them out over the
> > network).  Having cobbler serve as a one-stop-shop for automated OS
> > installs (other than your M$ license vendor) would be very helpful to me
> > and probably many others.  Thanks.
> > 
>  
>  James Cammarata primarily is working on Windows XP and 2003 automated 
>  installation, whereas I am exploring opportunities for Vista.
>  
>  We're both on IRC most of the time, so if you're interested ;-)
>  
>  Kind regards,
>  
>  Jeroen van Meeuwen
>  -kanarip
>  _______________________________________________
>  cobbler mailing list
>  cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>  https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler 
The ris-linux stuff has been merged into devel, but it is a bit rough
around the edges.  You still have to do a lot of things manually like
configure samba, tftpd, and the binlserver, but a winXP CD should import
fine once that's all done.  I don't have a 2k3 CD at my disposal, so I
haven't tested that, and I think my XP CD is pre-SP1 too so if yours is
SP1/SP2 there may be some issue there that I didn't run into.

My goal was to get the basics in for importing, and let people hack away on
it smoothing away the rough edges, so don't expect this to be supported
until 1.6 at the earliest.  I've been promising a wiki page for a couple of
weeks... I really need to get on that so keep bugging me about it :)

-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.