7:41 a.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: FUDCon APAC 2011 | Keywords: na-meeting
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Find out if there is a local company that can (1) provide a fat Internet
pipe to the hotel for use by FUDCon Tempe 2011 and (2) work cooperatively
with the hotel to get the equipment in place.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/19>
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7:41 a.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Changes (by pfrields):
* component: FUDCon APAC 2011 => FUDCon Tempe 2011
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8:22 a.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Changes (by jsmith):
* status: new => assigned
* milestone: => Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Comment:
I talked to a friend of mine, who is partners with a company that brings
in wireless access for these types of events. They'd need to climb on the
hotel roof to make sure they have line-of-sight to their tower, but they
think they can bring in a 45-megabit connection.
Their normal cost is roughly $2500 for this. I'm working with them to see
if we can get the price down, possibly by giving them some advertising as
a sponsor of the conference. I'll update the ticket as I know more.
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1:38 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by mdomsch):
not that it matters for this hotel for this conference, but... I sat
next to a guy on a plane this week who contracts to Hilton Hotels.
Apparently all Hilton properties are moving from each hotel offering their
own wireless/internet, to Hilton central I/T offering this. This means
the connectivity at each property will be more predictable, and capable of
ramping up and down capacity as needed. Not all properties have been
converted yet, but if they have, it should be a win for us.
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2:10 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by rrix):
I'm going to fire off a mail at Zach Giles, one of the ASULUG folks who
helped us pick location, etc... He runs a company which does this sort of
thing, and we may be able to cut a really nice deal with him.
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6:29 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by pfrields):
@jsmith, @rrix -- Great. Please pursue the possibilities (that's a lot of
alliteration), and keep this ticket updated with information as you go.
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2:17 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by pfrields):
I mentioned this to the Marriott sales fellow who said he was pretty sure
that Marriott itself could scale up their bandwidth, for a cost of course.
I asked him to send me the options along with the accommodations package.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/19#comment:6>
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11:53 a.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by pfrields):
I'm still exploring this with the Marriott folks. We've separated this
out from the contract for now, so we can get lodging reservations
underway. They understand we're willing to pay for bandwidth and it comes
down to what they can provide, and what we can afford. Will report back
here and on the list when there's more details available.
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12:35 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by jsmith):
I spoke with my friend again. They're staying with a firm $2500 cost for
45mbit service. If/when we decide we're ready to move forward, they'll
send a technician to the hotel to verify that they can get signal to the
roof of the hotel. Because this is licensed-spectrum wireless, they'll
need to know our final decision at least a month before the conference.
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/19#comment:8>
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4:41 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by rrix):
23:34 ( rrix) Zach says ~4000$ between hardware, install and bandwidth if
we decide to have it wired in... Seems prohibitively high
23:35 ( rrix) However, if he can get a contract to provide them internet
year round, say 20mbit, it would be very easy for us to bump that to 30 or
50mbit for the few days we need
23:35 ( rrix) Hence us putting him in contact with Marriot
23:35 ( rrix) The other option that he suggested, which may or may not
work out, is bringing the wireless to the Marriot using Microwave from the
brickyard building
23:36 ( rrix) That entails us having roof access to the main brickyard
biulding (not the Artisan building where we have rooms reserved), and
running cable between the two biuldings, as well as probably installing
more APs to accomodate us at the Marriot
23:36 ( rrix) It also means that we'd have to get approval from ASU IT,
which may be a bit weary of us shipping their net off campus, even if we
are on a segregated network
23:38 ( rrix) So, if we can't get the microwave option, or he can't get a
long-term contract with the Marriot, I'm thinking that we should go with
jsmith's contact
contact
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/19#comment:9>
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4:43 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by rrix):
FAIIIIL at trac.
23:34 ( rrix) Zach says ~4000$ between hardware, install and bandwidth if
we decide to have it wired in... Seems prohibitively high
23:35 ( rrix) However, if he can get a contract to provide them internet
year round, say 20mbit, it would be very easy for us to bump that to 30 or
50mbit for the few days we need
23:35 ( rrix) Hence us putting him in contact with Marriot
23:35 ( rrix) The other option that he suggested, which may or may not
work out, is bringing the wireless to the Marriot using Microwave from the
brickyard building
23:36 ( rrix) That entails us having roof access to the main brickyard
biulding (not the Artisan building where we have rooms reserved), and
running cable between the two biuldings, as well as probably installing
more APs to accomodate us at the Marriot
23:36 ( rrix) It also means that we'd have to get approval from ASU IT,
which may be a bit weary of us shipping their net off campus, even if we
are on a segregated network
23:38 ( rrix) So, if we can't get the microwave option, or he can't get a
long-term contract with the Marriot, I'm thinking that we should go with
jsmith's contact
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/19#comment:10>
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3:13 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: pfrields
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Changes (by pfrields):
* owner: jsmith => pfrields
* status: assigned => new
Comment:
Next action is for Paul to find out if the CY Tempe will let someone have
access to the roof to put up equipment.
Following that, Jared will talk to his contacts to schedule an on-site
survey.
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2:19 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: pfrields
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by jsmith):
I gave the contact into to my contact. My contact will try to setup an
on-site survey to double-check signal strength, etc.
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2:21 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: pfrields
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by pfrields):
The responsible facilities manager is Juan Rivera, who can be contacted
through the front desk of the hotel. This is in progress and we'll see
next week if an on-site survey has been completed.
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12:28 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Changes (by pfrields):
* owner: pfrields => jsmith
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2:22 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by pfrields):
Ryan's going to tickle Zach about this, and Jared can do the same with his
buddy. The site survey will tell us more about expected costs and whether
this will work at all.
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11:55 a.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by pfrields):
I'm going to split off a separate ticket for Ryan, so that you guys can
keep status updated more easily.
Jared, can you check in with your guy in AZ to see whether he's scheduled
or done the site survey? Thanks.
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2:05 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by jsmith):
I talked to my contact today. His response is below:
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Have spoken to Juan.
He believes there are 2 roof hatches on the south side of the building.
One appears to be in the red box
That being the case, a "peak mount" may work if there is LOS from the
green diamond.
I need to find somebody to get up on the roof, and I will call him back
to schedule a time. Probably next week.
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6:17 a.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by jsmith):
I talked with my contact Carlos again.
They can't get an antenna on the roof of the hotel. Too peaked, very
little access. Just not possible. They tried to see if we could shoot
through a window, but the windows were too low.
One option is to put an antenna on a man lift or scissor, and leave it
there for the duration.
The cost goes up, however, to pay for the rental of the lift.
He also mentioned an internet provider very close to the hotel (Desert
Internet? He said it was just across Mill Ave), and that they might be
able to quote us something as well.
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5:06 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by pfrields):
How much does the cost go up for the lift?
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2:22 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by jsmith):
Still haven't received a quote on the lift rental, but I've been in
contact with Qwest, Cox, and Copper State to get quotes on wired internet
access. Qwest's quote came back and was way too high, and I'm still
waiting for further details from the others.
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3:19 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution:
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Comment (by jsmith):
Qwest is a no-go -- they have no facilities in the building, and wouldn't
want to bring in facilities just for a temporary conference.
Cox is a no-go, for the same reason.
Copper State is getting me a quote from another wireless provider who has
done many other installations for Marriott hotels around the Phoenix area.
This may be our best hope, depending on whether they can get line-of-sight
to their towers.
I'll update the ticket w/ more details once I learn more.
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3:41 p.m.
#19: Explore possibility for internet pipe at hotel
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Reporter: pfrields | Owner: jsmith
Type: Task | Status: closed
Priority: normal | Milestone: Tempe 2011: Hotel logistics complete
Component: FUDCon Tempe 2011 | Resolution: wontfix
Keywords: na-meeting |
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Changes (by jsmith):
* status: new => closed
* resolution: => wontfix
Comment:
Couldn't find a suitable provider who had infrastructure to be able to
bring in additional bandwidth at a reasonable cost. Tried many
alternatives, but in the end it just wasn't feasible.
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