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#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr
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Meeting started by Renault at 18:35:20 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Association Borsalinux-fr (Renault, 18:36:05)
* Fedora-Fr.org (Renault, 18:39:58)
* Marketing (Renault, 18:41:14)
* Traduction (Renault, 18:44:33)
* Projet Fedora (Renault, 18:50:58)
* Paris Open Source Summit 2016 (Renault, 18:52:40)
* Premier samedi à la Cité des Sciences (Renault, 18:55:18)
* Discussions Libres (Renault, 18:58:43)
Meeting ended at 19:04:01 UTC.
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#fedora-blocker-review: F25-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:14 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:14)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:05:12)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:05:12)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:05:12)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:05:13)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:05:14)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:05:16)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:05:17)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:05:19)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:05:21)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:05:23)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:07:40)
* 2 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:01)
* 10 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:01)
* 3 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:05)
* 3 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:05)
* (1384482) Screenshots and screencasts don't work on Wayland with
multiple monitors (regression) (adamw, 16:10:24)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1384482 (adamw,
16:10:24)
* Proposed Blocker, mutter, VERIFIED (adamw, 16:10:24)
* AGREED: update has been pushed stable, we can close the bug and move
on (adamw, 16:12:01)
* (1380253) Netflix with Firefox DRM Plugin SELinux Policy (adamw,
16:12:11)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1380253 (adamw,
16:12:11)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, NEW (adamw, 16:12:11)
* AGREED: 1380253 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException (Final) -
we agreed this doesn't really meet the definition of 'basic
functionality', but it's obviously something many people will run
into and it would be good to fix it if at all possible (adamw,
16:27:05)
* moving to proposed FEs (adamw, 16:28:45)
* (1382820) Xfce is missing some NetworkManager's libs (adamw,
16:28:52)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1382820 (adamw,
16:28:52)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, LiveCD - Xfce, NEW (adamw, 16:28:53)
* AGREED: 1382820 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we'd be fine
with a tested change like this for Xfce after freeze. (adamw,
16:32:50)
* (1188774) [anaconda] white screen on external monitor attached to a
Lenovo ThinkPad T400 when docked and lid closed (adamw, 16:33:24)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1188774 (adamw,
16:33:24)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, metacity, NEW (adamw, 16:33:24)
* AGREED: 1188774 - punt (delay decision) - we don't think it makes
sense to make a decision on this without a better idea of what any
potential fix would look like and how disruptive it would be
(adamw, 16:41:48)
* (1332266) systemd-logind does not verify if system has resume device
defined when checking if can.hibernate or can.hybridsleep (adamw,
16:41:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1332266 (adamw,
16:41:56)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, systemd, NEW (adamw, 16:42:34)
* AGREED: 1332266 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - following the
F24 decision, as neither the bug nor the relevant criteria have
changed, we accept this as an FE (adamw, 16:52:33)
* (1363915) soas f25 liveuser no longer logs in in live (adamw,
16:53:18)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1363915 (adamw,
16:53:25)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, sugar, ON_QA (adamw, 16:53:34)
* AGREED: 1363915 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is a major
issue in a non-blocking live image, so a clear freeze exception
(adamw, 16:59:16)
* moving on to selected accepted blockers (adamw, 17:02:07)
* (1383890) blivet.errors.DeviceError: ('cannot replace active format',
'sdc1') (adamw, 17:02:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1383890 (adamw,
17:02:14)
* Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 17:02:14)
* AGREED: 1383890 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - with anaconda team's
input that this isn't really a supported scenario and the fact that
it's more conditional than we thought and there are many possible
workarounds, we now consider this not to be a blocker (adamw,
17:06:37)
* (1375504) VM screen is often black after boot in gnome-boxes (adamw,
17:08:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375504 (adamw,
17:08:34)
* Accepted Blocker, gnome-boxes, NEW (adamw, 17:08:35)
* AGREED: 1375504 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - we're not sure if this
bug is actually fixed, but as per #c8, it does not appear to be
affecting typical OOTB Boxes use any more (adamw, 17:21:07)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:24:25)
Meeting ended at 17:31:05 UTC.
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* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* jkurik (26)
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#fedora-meeting-3: "Fedora Join 24-10-2016"
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Meeting started by FranciscoD at 15:03:09 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (FranciscoD, 15:03:50)
* Recap and agenda (FranciscoD, 15:06:09)
* newly off the presses we have a UPDATED F24 ISO and torrent suite
(with the Dirty Cow Patched 4.7.9-200 available on alt server or via
shortlink [ http://tinyurl.com/live-respins2/] (linuxmodder,
15:06:26)
* In the past meeting, we discussed what the specific goal of the SIG
is - and how we'll make sure we don't clash with CommOps
(FranciscoD, 15:06:50)
* We agreed that while CommOps was working on improving the onboarding
process for all SIGs in general, and developing tools and all that,
we would focus on providing communications channels to enable
newbies to get in touch with existing community members
(FranciscoD, 15:07:44)
* Agenda: Since we agreed on that, the next step is to brain storm
what specific tasks we'll undertake towards our goal (FranciscoD,
15:09:08)
* Channels we've set up - #fedora-join on Freenode,
fedora-join(a)lists.fedoraproject.org (FranciscoD, 15:10:55)
* IDEAS (FranciscoD, 15:12:00)
* Please put all your ideas on this piratepad:
http://piratepad.net/GQCpFqZ4wI (FranciscoD, 15:15:16)
* ACTION: FranciscoD file ticket with CommOps to see how wcidff can be
improved (FranciscoD, 15:30:57)
* Brainstorming ways to improve Join SIG visibility (jflory7, 15:39:11)
* IDEA: Community Blog post highlighting the Join SIG as a place to
get started (jflory7, 15:39:52)
* IDEA: Promoting post on social media (jflory7, 15:39:57)
* IDEA: An announcement on a mailing list(s) about the Join SIG being
a place to funnel newcomers? (jflory7, 15:40:16)
* FCAIC (bexelbie) will likely not be available until late November
(jflory7, 15:41:02)
* IDEA: Incorporate links to the Join SIG in /other/ groups
on-boarding processes? (e.g. "Need to talk to a person? Come find us
to get help!") (jflory7, 15:41:48)
* IDEA: See if we can add a link to Join in wcidff footer
(FranciscoD, 15:42:13)
* ACTION: FranciscoD ask -admin about the possibility of adding a link
to Join in the wiki header/footer/sidebar (FranciscoD, 15:43:18)
* Next meeting to be a status check to see if our in-reach has had an
effect (FranciscoD, 15:58:52)
* ACTION: FranciscoD file tickets for both announce ML post + commblog
post (FranciscoD, 15:59:09)
* ACTION: FranciscoD see if IRC logs can be parsed to give us some
metrics (FranciscoD, 15:59:26)
* Openfloor (FranciscoD, 16:00:24)
Meeting ended at 16:06:02 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* FranciscoD file ticket with CommOps to see how wcidff can be improved
* FranciscoD ask -admin about the possibility of adding a link to Join
in the wiki header/footer/sidebar
* FranciscoD file tickets for both announce ML post + commblog post
* FranciscoD see if IRC logs can be parsed to give us some metrics
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* FranciscoD
* FranciscoD file ticket with CommOps to see how wcidff can be
improved
* FranciscoD ask -admin about the possibility of adding a link to Join
in the wiki header/footer/sidebar
* FranciscoD file tickets for both announce ML post + commblog post
* FranciscoD see if IRC logs can be parsed to give us some metrics
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* jflory7 (102)
* linuxmodder (59)
* Rhea (33)
* skamath (17)
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 15:00:40 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-10-24/fedora-qa.2016-…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (adamw, 15:00:46)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:05:46)
* "sumantro to organize a test day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BetterSwitchableGraphicsSupport"
- we're working on that, at
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/493 and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2016-10-26_BetterSwitchableGraphics…
, it will be 2016-10-26 (Wednesday); more details later I guess
(adamw, 15:07:27)
* "garretraziel or adamw to file a phab ticket for looking into
setting up openQA testing of the post-release live respins" -
garretraziel did that,
https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T852 (adamw, 15:09:42)
* "adamw and kparal to update commonbugs for Beta" - kparal did that,
thanks kparal (adamw, 15:10:25)
* coremodule has edited the Heroes of Fedora blog posts for F24 and
F25 Alpha to include nightly validation results, they're awaiting
editorial review (adamw, 15:12:20)
* Default install validation test change proposal (adamw, 15:14:49)
* ACTION: adamw to come up with revised version of installation
validation test change proposal this week (adamw, 15:27:00)
* Fedora 25 status (adamw, 15:27:11)
* Final Freeze is 2016-11-01, Go/No-Go is 2016-11-10 (adamw,
15:35:54)
* we need to be filling out Final validation tests at this point: as a
reminder, you can use
https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/25/ to see how often
tests have been run and find ones that need running (adamw,
15:36:23)
* ACTION: adamw and sumantro to discuss state of Wayland with hybrid
graphics systems with hansg, desktop team etc. to see if we need to
worry about it for F25 release (adamw, 15:41:30)
* Test Day status (adamw, 15:50:10)
* Switchable Graphics Test Day is this Wednesday, 2016-10-26:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2016-10-26_BetterSwitchableGraphics…
(adamw, 15:50:55)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/489 (sumantro,
15:54:52)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Test_Day:2016_10_24_Cloud
(tflink, 15:55:55)
* Cloud team is running an Atomic Host Test Day today, please join in
if you have time:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2016_10_24_Cloud (adamw,
15:56:33)
* we may try to run a storaged Test Day next week (adamw, 15:57:10)
* Open floor (adamw, 15:57:28)
Meeting ended at 16:03:02 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to come up with revised version of installation validation test
change proposal this week
* adamw and sumantro to discuss state of Wayland with hybrid graphics
systems with hansg, desktop team etc. to see if we need to worry about
it for F25 release
Action Items, by person
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* adamw
* adamw to come up with revised version of installation validation
test change proposal this week
* adamw and sumantro to discuss state of Wayland with hybrid graphics
systems with hansg, desktop team etc. to see if we need to worry
about it for F25 release
* sumantro
* adamw and sumantro to discuss state of Wayland with hybrid graphics
systems with hansg, desktop team etc. to see if we need to worry
about it for F25 release
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* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-2: RELENG (2016-10-24)
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Meeting started by dgilmore at 14:37:49 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* init process (dgilmore, 14:37:52)
* Alternative Architectures updates (dgilmore, 14:42:34)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic/c/37389c874240db4055c8076600a89a5fa3eba4a7?…
(dgilmore, 14:47:00)
* changes were made for atomic host in rawhide to support all arches
other than s390x and i686 (dgilmore, 14:47:21)
* the very last build of rpm-ostree added the ability to specify
packages-<basearch> (dgilmore, 14:49:56)
* we should enable atomic host in rawhide for aarch64 and when we
merge ppc64 and ppc64le those as well (dgilmore, 14:51:13)
* we will announce to devel and ppc lists the migration of ppc64 and
ppc64le from ppc.koji.fp.o to koji.fp.o this weekend (dgilmore,
14:52:45)
* s390x to be evaluated for f27 (dgilmore, 14:53:27)
* pagure migration (dgilmore, 14:58:07)
* we will import the fedorahosted issues with new issue numbers due to
existing issues in pagure (dgilmore, 15:09:14)
* f26 changes (dgilmore, 15:12:34)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/PriorityPipeline#F26_Plan…
(dgilmore, 15:12:39)
* there will be a flag day for packager changes (dgilmore, 15:15:30)
* weekend of December 10th and 11th all the changes for packager flag
day will be finalised (dgilmore, 15:21:43)
* on December 12th all packagers will need to be using new enough
versions of rpkg, koji, fedpkg, fedora-packager (dgilmore,
15:22:26)
* change from ssl to kerberos will be the most distruptive end user
change (dgilmore, 15:26:32)
* any changes we want to get in for Fedora 26 we should have listed
now (dgilmore, 15:27:15)
* Open Floor (dgilmore, 15:27:54)
* builders updated and rebooted (except arm04 nodes) (dgilmore,
15:32:52)
* bodhi beta in stg, going to Prod Thursday (dgilmore, 15:33:24)
* bowlofeggs on PTO next week (dgilmore, 15:34:38)
* nirik on PTO Wednesday, Thursdasy and Friday (dgilmore, 15:35:06)
Meeting ended at 15:40:06 UTC.
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* (none)
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* nirik (43)
* bowlofeggs (19)
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* maxamillion (14)
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#fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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Meeting started by randomuser at 14:05:49 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (randomuser, 14:05:53)
* Participants are reminded to make liberal use of #info #link #help
in order to make the minutes "more better" (randomuser, 14:10:19)
* New Writers (randomuser, 14:10:25)
* Where are with the Release Cycle and Docs? (randomuser, 14:13:41)
* LINK:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-docs-tasks.html
(randomuser, 14:14:19)
* ACTION: randomuser to refresh POTs for available docs (randomuser,
14:15:07)
* Specific Doc Status (randomuser, 14:22:25)
* install guide needs some minor updates (randomuser, 14:22:40)
* Outstanding BZ Tickets (randomuser, 14:30:23)
* All Bugs - http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser, 14:30:57)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/group/fedora-docs (randomuser, 14:31:37)
* Open Floor Discussion (randomuser, 14:32:43)
Meeting ended at 14:38:31 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* randomuser to refresh POTs for available docs
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* randomuser
* randomuser to refresh POTs for available docs
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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