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FAmNA Meeting minutes (31 March 2014)
by Dan Mashal 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by dan408_ at 20:59:38 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-31/famna.2014-03-31… . Meeting summary --------------- * 1-800-451-8679, conference code 9543115545 (nb, 20:59:44) * Roll Call (dan408_, 20:59:53) * Announcements (dan408_, 21:01:37) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (dan408_, 21:03:51) * Tickets (dan408_, 21:03:55) * ACTION: StabbyMc to look into RHEL training discounts for Ambassadors (dan408_, 21:17:52) * ACTION: dan408 to follow up with Ruth on tshirt design contest (dan408_, 21:25:51) * west coast shipper (nb, 21:32:57) * FAmSCo Treasurer (nb, 21:41:37) * FAmNA Treasurer (nb, 21:41:49) * AGREED: award3535 is the treasurer for FAmNA (nb, 21:43:47) * LINK: http://nb.fedorapeople.org/photo.JPG (nb, 21:56:16) * LINK: http://nb.fedorapeople.org/photo2.JPG (nb, 21:57:13) * openfloor (dan408_, 22:07:52) Meeting ended at 22:08:35 UTC. Action Items ------------ * StabbyMc to look into RHEL training discounts for Ambassadors * dan408 to follow up with Ruth on tshirt design contest Action Items, by person ----------------------- * StabbyMc * StabbyMc to look into RHEL training discounts for Ambassadors * **UNASSIGNED** * dan408 to follow up with Ruth on tshirt design contest People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nb (72) * dan408_ (69) * jzb (23) * StabbyMc (13) * zodbot (12) * nirik (2) * award3535 (2) * HannahEeps (1) * masta (0) * rbergeron (0) * inode0 (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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2014-03-31 Meeting Notes
by Zach Oglesby 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

==================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Weekly Meeting ==================================== Meeting started by zoglesby at 14:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-31/docs.2014-03-31-… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (zoglesby, 14:00:39) * Participants are reminded to make liberal use of #info #link #help in order to make the minutes "more better" (zoglesby, 14:01:20) * New Writers (zoglesby, 14:05:01) * SEO with DocBook & Publican (zoglesby, 14:07:37) * ACTION: lnovich to talk to Rudi about SEO for Docbook and Publican (zoglesby, 14:09:18) * ACTION: lnovich to find notes about SEO, will talk about it again next week (zoglesby, 14:10:07) * Publican/Publishing (zoglesby, 14:11:31) * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_the_docs_site (jsmith, 14:16:53) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_the_docs_site (zoglesby, 14:17:10) * ACTION: jsmith to test publishing in a new VM (zoglesby, 14:17:30) * see nb if you want a openstack VM to test with (nb, 14:22:11) * randomuser is working on ansible setup for the new server (zoglesby, 14:24:45) * New Writers redux (zoglesby, 14:27:36) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_contribute_to_Docs (zoglesby, 14:28:12) * Fedora.next Product Updates (zoglesby, 14:36:10) * ACTION: jsmith to talk to the Cloud WG about docs (zoglesby, 14:39:09) * ACTION: jsmith and Sparks to write up posts about the FAD (zoglesby, 14:39:34) * randomuser is here! (zoglesby, 14:39:41) * Guide Status (zoglesby, 14:45:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Docs_Project_tasks (zoglesby, 14:45:17) * ACTION: nb to blog about the FAD (zoglesby, 14:46:22) * nb and jsmith adding two factor topics to security guide (zoglesby, 14:50:08) * lnovich is working on new Virtualization Deployment and Admin (zoglesby, 14:50:40) * Outstanding BZ Tickets (zoglesby, 14:52:13) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (zoglesby, 14:52:20) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/agh4mg6 (zoglesby, 14:52:45) * Changes for the release notes will be tracked in the original ticket's "Docs Contact" field (zoglesby, 14:56:08) * volunteers to cover changes will be solicited in future meetings, irc, mailing list, wherever we can find you (randomuser, 14:56:22) * Changes to guides will be tracked in deplicate bugs (zoglesby, 14:56:44) * Open floor discussion (zoglesby, 14:57:47) * ACTION: randomuser to mail list about tracking changes (zoglesby, 14:58:16) * thanks zoglesby for chairing the meeting (randomuser, 14:58:35) * Docs Office hours for Americas will be Thur at 1800 UTC (zoglesby, 15:00:19) Meeting ended at 15:00:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * lnovich to talk to Rudi about SEO for Docbook and Publican * lnovich to find notes about SEO, will talk about it again next week * jsmith to test publishing in a new VM * jsmith to talk to the Cloud WG about docs * jsmith and Sparks to write up posts about the FAD * nb to blog about the FAD * randomuser to mail list about tracking changes Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jsmith * jsmith to test publishing in a new VM * jsmith to talk to the Cloud WG about docs * jsmith and Sparks to write up posts about the FAD * lnovich * lnovich to talk to Rudi about SEO for Docbook and Publican * lnovich to find notes about SEO, will talk about it again next week * nb * nb to blog about the FAD * randomuser * randomuser to mail list about tracking changes * Sparks * jsmith and Sparks to write up posts about the FAD * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * zoglesby (83) * jsmith (35) * lnovich (33) * randomuser (20) * nb (15) * Sparks (11) * rkratky (10) * jjmcd (6) * zodbot (5) * ciupicri (2) * yruseva (1) * pbokoc (1) * sclark (1) * pkovar (1) * Capesteve (1)

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Fedora Release Engineering meeting summary for 2014-03-31
by Dennis Gilmore 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ========================= #fedora-meeting-1 Meeting ========================= Meeting started by dgilmore at 15:30:46 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-03-31/releng.2014-03… . Meeting summary - --------------- * roll call (dgilmore, 15:31:42) * tickets https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/report/10 (dgilmore, 15:35:26) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5854 (dgilmore, 15:35:51) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5362 (dgilmore, 15:37:25) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5870 (dgilmore, 15:38:15) * ticket 5870 rawhide signing (tyll_, 15:43:26) * don't want the private key or passphrase on the hub (tyll_, 15:43:37) * at branching we will need to make sure everything is signed with the release key (tyll_, 15:50:26) * < dgilmore> making sure that rawhide has access to and can import 2 keys should be doable (tyll_, 15:52:15) * at branch, f21 gets all f21 signed and rawhide gets all f21 signed from there, but f22 after that (tyll_, 15:55:24) * ACTION: nirik will talk with threebean about fedmsg and triggering signing from it, see if there's concerns there. (tyll_, 16:00:32) * ACTION: nirik will ping mitr and see if there's any chance for sigul work this year... and how hard it would be to add a way to allow non passphrase/unattended (tyll_, 16:00:47) * Secondary Arches: s390 (dgilmore, 16:07:10) * Secondary Arches: ppc (dgilmore, 16:07:26) * Secondary Arches: aarch64 (dgilmore, 16:09:02) * mass rebuild (dgilmore, 16:12:03) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/21/Schedule (dgilmore, 16:13:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GCC49 (dgilmore, 16:14:07) * branching is no earlier than 2014-07-08 (dgilmore, 16:15:33) * we really want to make sure that the mass rebuild is done by June 9th at the latest (tyll_, 16:17:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java8 (tyll_, 16:23:36) * open floor (dgilmore, 16:26:08) * next meeting will be 2014-04-07 15:30 UTC (tyll_, 16:28:20) * ACTION: bochecha to send in a proposal for lookaside cache migration (dgilmore, 16:40:25) Meeting ended at 16:41:18 UTC. Action Items - ------------ * nirik will talk with threebean about fedmsg and triggering signing from it, see if there's concerns there. * nirik will ping mitr and see if there's any chance for sigul work this year... and how hard it would be to add a way to allow non passphrase/unattended * bochecha to send in a proposal for lookaside cache migration Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * bochecha * bochecha to send in a proposal for lookaside cache migration * nirik * nirik will talk with threebean about fedmsg and triggering signing from it, see if there's concerns there. * nirik will ping mitr and see if there's any chance for sigul work this year... and how hard it would be to add a way to allow non passphrase/unattended * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * dgilmore (109) * nirik (38) * tyll_ (20) * masta (16) * bochecha (10) * jreznik (10) * zodbot (4) * dwa (0) * sharkcz (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTOZsgAAoJEH7ltONmPFDRozwQAJnI8mG9CtvVaFeqgdFXRGar fRm12HWJ86DTeWVF6dtrCikTVehEyQQPDOItSOAEVSwdmtsBZzUEPkiKLceftHUj l0s3/TUy4ZEFRa9tQSK5ReWpEZcKyuVXEkRuJvQRmh23ZoGOo4SON69+egkWmy6h 8UE0ndmFyKHtd1uhXWJ8nPBsp8jDHUAbMo1P3t1K8uLR040yBCcD/wfI/Z9aUVHx /fLfLqeUX/3qCA/xyBhTDkNoA98r7ZFHQtNRnk/xs1vvdc6JsFpRAksWn3cGYG4P NbjPhKK1HTyGXhFyx3laid3IJGy1xvyBDqQH06lmnhubnXBc+d/+/SCfTUe+viSb wNRgR7uiUCin3b0cU9EkYYCvJ0rJyZRJMxPT4mRP4OzasDSIvAwnWxA4u2FSubyQ 66NjGj3tPiR8PAbvODPIoWeDjoMy2EoQghadu0mPNrnKcfTvAoUNC11FgDmIvH7v XmjSDZhQE/z1dvfvWV1B7yPuuF5C+4gkIBlD2HVsLAOWFu6v+ou/21f/ghS0lk/U WqJpTC78tpf6v+XHrg5nooJeLxOeUteykHooqYrqaLOXKo/JbSnqRXuAlh2ZQ1/1 EItCaGW1PO8uYpfsT/8VHtR7AbqGCGMzt+AxneABEc4SAzuMr1vxI3VXWc01Hh7Q Gwf+cbRa1NF22cIQz+/t =scEz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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OpenLMI Public IRC Meeting Minutes (2014-03-31)
by Stephen Gallagher 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ============================== #openlmi: OpenLMI (2014-03-31) ============================== Meeting started by sgallagh at 13:00:19 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/openlmi/2014-03-31/openlmi_public_irc_meet… . Meeting summary - --------------- * Meetings are recorded and will be posted on www.openlmi.org. Opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect the reviews of the participant's employer. (sgallagh, 13:00:32) * Roll Call (sgallagh, 13:00:36) * sgallagh is here (sgallagh, 13:00:42) * rnovacek is here (sgallagh, 13:01:43) * jsafrane is here (sgallagh, 13:01:49) * tsmetana is here (sgallagh, 13:03:07) * miminar is here (sgallagh, 13:03:12) * Agenda (sgallagh, 13:03:46) * Agenda Item: Fedora Server Roles (sgallagh, 13:04:14) * Agenda Item: Bug Triage (sgallagh, 13:04:20) * Fedora Server Roles (sgallagh, 13:06:05) * The Fedora Server Product plans to produce a D-BUS API for deploying common infrastructure "Roles" on machines. OpenLMI could be the remote interface for this. (sgallagh, 13:07:42) * Starting Pegasus in the kickstart %post looks unreasonably difficult at this time (sgallagh, 13:11:28) * tsmetana also notes that starting pegasus in %post might lead to incorrect first-time configuration bugs. (sgallagh, 13:13:04) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart#realm (jsafrane, 13:16:17) * ACTION: sgallagh to check with stefw about building anaconda plugin and kickstart commands for role deployment (sgallagh, 13:16:36) * AGREED: OpenLMI will plan to implement only the remote tool for Fedora Server Roles (or the post-first-boot configuration locally) (sgallagh, 13:19:17) * AGREED: support for Fedora Server Role remote management is no longer a top priority, but will remain nice-to-have if the opportunity presents itself. (sgallagh, 13:31:02) * Bug Triage (sgallagh, 13:32:22) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/301 - Add subscription manager provider (sgallagh, 13:33:20) * AGREED: Push out to OpenLMI 1.3.0 (sgallagh, 13:39:20) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/303 - Add abrt provider (sgallagh, 13:39:35) * AGREED: deferred until conversation with the ABRT team occurs (sgallagh, 13:42:53) * ACTION: tsmetana to contack jfilak about ABRT provider development. (sgallagh, 13:43:09) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/128 - Test with IPv6 (sgallagh, 13:43:26) * ACTION: sgallagh to try testing with IPv6 (sgallagh, 13:49:40) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/298 - LMI_IPNetworkConnection can be in association with incorrect LMI_IPAssignmentSettingData (sgallagh, 13:50:09) * AGREED: Fix in OpenLMI 1.1.0 (sgallagh, 14:00:04) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/271 - [RFE] lmi command support for persistent network setting (sgallagh, 14:00:42) * Leaving in NEEDS_TRIAGE until rnovacek can reproduce it (sgallagh, 14:04:06) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/250 - openlmi-doc-class2rst can't process whole cim schema (sgallagh, 14:04:08) * AGREED: Move to "Postponed" bucket (sgallagh, 14:09:22) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/251 - openlmi-doc-class2rst tracebacks without arguments (sgallagh, 14:09:37) * AGREED: Move to "Postponed" bucket (sgallagh, 14:09:38) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/289 - Service reloading not supported (sgallagh, 14:09:51) * ACTION: vcrhonek to ask fskola for a reproducer (sgallagh, 14:16:35) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/264 - Can't install packages without repository PGP key (sgallagh, 14:16:53) * AGREED: Address in OpenLMI 1.1.0 (sgallagh, 14:26:04) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/302 - Add support for yum history (sgallagh, 14:26:17) * AGREED: Move to "postponed" milestone (sgallagh, 14:34:06) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/275 - Extended partition size is always 1024 (sgallagh, 14:34:19) * AGREED: leave in NEEDS_TRIAGE until we get feedback from the Blivet team (sgallagh, 14:39:49) * https://fedorahosted.org/openlmi/ticket/304 - Add total and free storage information (sgallagh, 14:40:03) * AGREED: Add this support in OpenLMI 1.2 (sgallagh, 14:44:36) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 14:44:41) Meeting ended at 14:46:39 UTC. Action Items - ------------ * sgallagh to check with stefw about building anaconda plugin and kickstart commands for role deployment * tsmetana to contack jfilak about ABRT provider development. * sgallagh to try testing with IPv6 * vcrhonek to ask fskola for a reproducer Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * sgallagh * sgallagh to check with stefw about building anaconda plugin and kickstart commands for role deployment * sgallagh to try testing with IPv6 * tsmetana * tsmetana to contack jfilak about ABRT provider development. * vcrhonek * vcrhonek to ask fskola for a reproducer * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * sgallagh (193) * tsmetana (55) * rdoty (36) * jsafrane (13) * zodbot (7) * miminar (6) * rnovacek (6) * vcrhonek (3) * pschiffe (3) * tbzatek (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlM5gFcACgkQeiVVYja6o6OYnACbBhCKAuAsTNzHtTfmGBMWkXuu xvAAoIdd9qIyC/b1y9G51bri5s8p8BOn =zDWJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2014-03-28)
by Zhenbo Li 29 Mar '14

29 Mar '14

Hi 会议结束后没有人发记录？那我就自作主张补发到列表里了 Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2014-03-28/fedora-zh.2014-03-28-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2014-03-28/fedora-zh.2014-03-28-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2014-03-28/fedora-zh.2014-03-28-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by alick at 13:01:31 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2014-03-28/fedora-zh.2014-03-28-… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call 报到 (alick, 13:01:43) * FUDCon APAC 2014 (alick, 13:08:23) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Beijing_2014 (alick, 13:08:41) * LINK: http://www.gov.cn/fuwu/2014-02/11/content_2588509.htm (alick, 13:10:57) * LINK: http://wenku.baidu.com/view/b708313a43323968001c920f.html (alick, 13:11:03) * ACTION: alick zsun libin cicku create invitation form (alick, 13:11:37) * CFP 接收决定会议已开，接收与否已定。 (alick, 13:13:36) * ACTION: zsun alick cicku libin dongfengweixiao send out CFP decision letter (alick, 13:14:24) * ACTION: alick update visa info on wiki page (alick, 13:19:04) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/21/Subway-beijing.jpg (endle, 13:29:03) * ACTION: endle update local transport info on wiki page (alick, 13:31:37) * HELP: everyone update hotel info on wiki page (alick, 13:32:16) * ACTION: alick create a spreadsheet for tracking subsidy application (alick, 13:34:11) * ACTION: alick file ticket on infra to try recovering logs when zodbot is away. (alick, 13:34:40) * FAD China 2014 (alick, 13:35:01) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_China_2014/zh (alick, 13:35:12) * LINK: http://ostc.csdn.net/ (alick, 13:35:18) * 周日上午早点去现场签到吧 (alick, 13:37:10) * 上午的主旨演讲有 Larry Wall，值得围观 (alick, 13:37:41) * 演讲者有午餐。FUDCon 组织者也有午餐报销。 (alick, 13:38:11) * Free Discussion 自由讨论 (alick, 13:46:41) Meeting ended at 14:08:49 UTC. Action Items ------------ * alick zsun libin cicku create invitation form * zsun alick cicku libin dongfengweixiao send out CFP decision letter * alick update visa info on wiki page * endle update local transport info on wiki page * alick create a spreadsheet for tracking subsidy application * alick file ticket on infra to try recovering logs when zodbot is away. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alick * alick zsun libin cicku create invitation form * zsun alick cicku libin dongfengweixiao send out CFP decision letter * alick update visa info on wiki page * alick create a spreadsheet for tracking subsidy application * alick file ticket on infra to try recovering logs when zodbot is away. * endle * endle update local transport info on wiki page * zodbot * alick file ticket on infra to try recovering logs when zodbot is away. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alick (81) * ouhuayu (18) * felixonmars (15) * endle (14) * zodbot (13) * biergaizi_ (10) * BadGirl (8) * isyangxin (1) * CyrusYzGTt (0) * tiansworld (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Fedora Docs FAD 2014 Action Summary 2000!
by Pete Travis 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

Thanks to everyone who participated in the FAD, I had a great time and enjoyed meeting everyone. I've just gone through the minutes and memories and put together a short summary of actionable stuff. Fedora Products: - jreznik will help get the WGs talking about docs - jsmith to track Cloud product - zoglesby to track Server product - pkovar is already tracking env-and-stacks - I will track Workstation product Publishing/infra: - jsmith and I started hacking on docs backend instance, jsmith made progress then and since. authorized_keys is manually maintained, ping nb if you are in sysadmin-docs and want to play along. - some of our trac instances don't mail. nb will look into it. - Sparks updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Publishing_a_document_with_Publican#Publishi… - publishing translations means an extra step! check the doc. - The publican-fedora-web brand *might* be broken. We aren't sure if we are building the site properly yet. Videos: - everyone agreed that some videos would be nice - As I write this, I'm not sure if we had consensus on user facing videos or Docs facing videos - Sparks is going to ping the fedora design list about video production skills Cookbook: - I started a new book, the "Fedora Cookbook". We can put short articles that don't fit anywhere else in there. - The cookbook has rudimentary templates for people to fill out - submissions to follow review process, be part of mentorship program - Once this gets rolling, *please* help submitters see reviews then published results and keep the turnaround time low. Guides: - Sparks ressurected the Jargon Guide. - Laura gave us some good info on meta tags, and promised more. - We talked a bit about improving search presence. See below about blogs. - We discussed a mentoring process quite a bit. Other than pairing off mentors and new conrtributors, I don't recall any formalized mentoring stuff. We should continue to discuss this. New Contributors: - We agreed to encourage submissions on any topic. - Submissions will be reviewed for writing technique, etc - reviewer will then forward to an existing guide, new guide, or the cookbook - Docs lead should regularly send out check-in emails for new writers - Meetings will have a new writer topic on the standing agenda - Laura was very interested in persuing contributions from technical writing school sturents. Everyone thought that was a good idea and encouraged her to do that :) Documentation Guide: - Sparks added style guide content from the wiki - jsmith started working on a great intro guide with accompanying workbook - I made a note to add something about yelp - I did add an introduction to the group Meta: - We need to have more visibility in the project! - Docs people should write blogs and such and submit to planet.fedoraproject.org - Being involved in other groups is a good idea - {{Moved_to_guide}} wiki template created for outdated wiki content - We are sad that the docs-qa process isn't happening

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-03-27 17:00 - 19:00 UTC)
by James Antill 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by abadger1999 at 17:02:25 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-03-27/fpc.2014-03-27… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (abadger1999, 17:02:34) * SCLs. (abadger1999, 17:05:54) * Go https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/382 (abadger1999, 17:08:43) * #391 Exception for bundled libraries in icecat (abadger1999, 17:09:05) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/391 (abadger1999, 17:09:09) * LINK: http://fpaste.org/89236/59403071/ (abadger1999, 17:11:54) * ACTION: abadger1999 to write up both "too big to fail" and "too small to care" criteria and we'll vote on those next week. (abadger1999, 18:02:10) * #397 Please, choose an ID number for a new group called input (abadger1999, 18:05:25) * #398 Tilde in version (abadger1999, 18:06:00) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/398 (abadger1999, 18:06:05) * current votes on tilde in version (+1:1, 0:2, -1:4) (abadger1999, 18:26:09) * #402 Promote /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d over /etc/rpm (abadger1999, 18:27:04) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/402 (abadger1999, 18:27:09) * Promote /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d over /etc/rpm Passed (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999, 18:30:47) * #404 Update python packaging guidelines (abadger1999, 18:31:40) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User:Till/Python_Packaging&diff… (geppetto, 18:35:04) * python guidelines update (ticket 404) Passed (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999, 18:36:32) * #405 Downstream versioning of shared libraries. (abadger1999, 18:37:21) * #407 Bundled lib exception request (copylibs) for sha1 bundled with apt-cacher-ng (abadger1999, 18:46:00) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/407 (abadger1999, 18:46:07) * Allow bundling of this sha1 implementation for the same reasons we allow md5 bundling. Use virtual Provides: bundled(sha1-hollerbach) to mark it presently at (+1:3, 0:0, -1:0) will seek remaining votes in ticket (abadger1999, 18:56:04) * #408 Temporary jquery bundling exception for libserialport (abadger1999, 18:56:15) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/408 (abadger1999, 18:56:22) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:JavaScript (abadger1999, 18:58:02) * General jquery exception until systemwide jquery feature is ready at (+1:2, 0:0, -1:0) will seek additional votes in the ticket. (abadger1999, 19:04:51) * Open floor (abadger1999, 19:04:56) Meeting ended at 19:09:24 UTC. Action Items ------------ * abadger1999 to write up both "too big to fail" and "too small to care" criteria and we'll vote on those next week. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * abadger1999 * abadger1999 to write up both "too big to fail" and "too small to care" criteria and we'll vote on those next week. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * abadger1999 (154) * tibbs|w (99) * geppetto (70) * limburgher (47) * spot (21) * racor (20) * Rathann (16) * RemiFedora (14) * zodbot (10) * danofsatx-work (3) * cpot (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2014-03-27)
by Kevin Fenzi 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2014-03-27) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-27/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 18:00:09) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 18:01:32) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:05:21) * pkgdb2 moving forward (nirik, 18:06:31) * new bodhi release to fix el5 repos, should be fixed later today (nirik, 18:06:46) * copr is now using 20 builders, which is nearly as twice than previously (mirek-hm, 18:14:15) * start thinking about el7 porting/bringup (nirik, 18:19:10) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:20:20) * migrating netapp lun to another filer, so then they can move our nfs volumes. (nirik, 18:20:47) * added fed-cloud03 as another cloud compute node this week. (nirik, 18:26:12) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:27:14) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 18:27:14) * LINK: https://flock-lmacken.rhcloud.com/ (pingou, 18:43:40) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:49:26) Meeting ended at 18:55:57 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (99) * pingou (23) * threebean (15) * smooge (15) * adimania (11) * mirek-hm (11) * relrod (9) * dgilmore (9) * danofsatx-work (8) * lmacken (8) * zodbot (4) * docent (4) * randomuser (3) * tflink (3) * abadger1999 (1) * jsmith (1) * roshi (1) * puiterwijk (0) * mdomsch (0) -- 18:00:09 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2014-03-27) 18:00:09 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 27 18:00:09 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:09 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:09 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:09 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 18:00:09 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk 18:00:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 18:00:16 <danofsatx-work> here 18:00:20 <nirik> who all is around for a exciting infra meeting? 18:00:25 * danofsatx-work is nuking lunch 18:00:26 * tflink is around 18:00:31 * lmacken 18:00:33 * docent also 18:00:34 * pingou 18:00:40 * adimania too 18:00:42 * relrod here 18:00:52 <smooge> here 18:00:56 * abadger1999 in other meeting 18:01:32 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 18:01:42 * randomuser is around 18:01:44 <nirik> any new folks like to introduce themselves today? 18:01:47 * roshi is around 18:01:50 <nirik> or apprentices with questions or comments? 18:02:23 <randomuser> I poked around with some fedorahosted stuff over the weekend, please yell at me if you find anything broken 18:02:49 <randomuser> EOF 18:03:08 <nirik> randomuser: cool. I see there's one new hosted project add pending... if you want to do it. ;) 18:03:35 <docent> Instead of doing apprentice work I'm poking around Docker for the last month (Fedora Docekrfiles; together with Scott Collier) 18:03:58 <nirik> docent: cool. docker is pretty nifty. 18:04:17 <docent> I was at the gitlab-rpm meeting last week and there is possibility that we'll build some gitlab containers in orde rto test some gitlab spins within fedora 18:04:29 <nirik> nice. 18:04:40 <docent> ok, that's it about me :) 18:05:21 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 18:05:30 <nirik> any applications news this week or upcoming? 18:05:40 <pingou> pkgdb2 is getting slowly closer 18:05:51 <pingou> abadger1999: worked on the cron job to sync ACL pkgdb2 <-> git 18:06:05 <pingou> there is still the bugzilla and postfix ones to do 18:06:22 <nirik> ok 18:06:24 <lmacken> a new bodhi release went out this week to fix el5 repodata, should hopefully fix bug #1080373 after the push that is happening right now finishes. 18:06:31 <nirik> #info pkgdb2 moving forward 18:06:46 <nirik> #info new bodhi release to fix el5 repos, should be fixed later today 18:08:46 <nirik> I'm going to look at making a sundries01/02/01.stg set... this would be to move: geoip, freemedia, mirrormanager-admin, and possibly busmon to. 18:08:56 <nirik> ie, move those off the app servers. 18:09:12 <nirik> since they are all small services that don't really need their own instances. 18:09:13 <pingou> what about the cron jobs? 18:09:14 * relrod is working on the jenkins <-> fedmsg plugin again today. I hope to have it done by this weekend sometime though school has been giving me a lot of work these past few weeks. :( 18:09:39 <pingou> relrod: school first, but cool news :) 18:10:01 * threebean wanders in late 18:10:01 <nirik> pingou: good question. We could do cron on those too... unless the crons need access to shared storage or anything? 18:10:16 <nirik> should identify all the crons we have on bapp02 now. 18:10:19 <pingou> nirik: not for the ones I know 18:10:28 <pingou> but I don't know them all :) 18:10:52 <nirik> we will still need a mirrormanager-backend01 for replacing some bapp02 services.... (s3 uploads, crawling mirrors, updating mirrorlists, etc) 18:11:12 <nirik> and I think there's some pkgdb1 stuff running there? 18:11:29 <nirik> just some crons perhaps 18:11:56 * mirek-hm is late, but here 18:12:26 <nirik> oh, another thing I wanted to bring up app wise... 18:12:49 <nirik> have we started looking at what we need to do for rhel7 migrations? I assume packging would need to be worked for our apps... 18:13:07 * threebean nods 18:13:17 <danofsatx-work> yeah, I noticed there was now a 7 branch in EPEL 18:13:20 <threebean> some bits are ready, others are not. I don't think we've looked systematically at it yet. 18:13:34 <lmacken> we should probably setup a rhel7 dev instance to test with 18:13:58 * pingou notes we do have an el7 builder on jenkins 18:14:15 <mirek-hm> #info copr is now using 20 builders, which is nearly as twice than previously 18:14:15 <nirik> we also have el7b cloud image... 18:15:03 <mirek-hm> and you can start creating packages in copr, which have rhel7 chroot :) 18:15:16 <nirik> mirek-hm: so that issue this morning was just that it wasn't terminiating old builders? 18:15:54 <mirek-hm> nirik: yes, I still dunno why some are not terminated, but I moved the script from cron.daily to cron.hourly 18:16:11 <mirek-hm> I mean script which terminate those left overs 18:16:11 * nirik would like to start moving to el7 as soon as it's out... but of course there's going to be lots of work needed. 18:16:30 <lmacken> do we have any el5 installs lying around still? 18:16:47 <nirik> mirek-hm: yeah. Wonder if you could add some debugging to the regular playbooks it uses... it terminates them in there after use right? 18:17:03 <mirek-hm> yes 18:17:04 <nirik> lmacken: nope, long gone. ;) app07 lingered on, but it was nuked a while back 18:17:21 <lmacken> nirik: ah okay. I wanted to test that updateinfo sha256 issue, but I guess we'll see what happens :) 18:17:58 <nirik> lmacken: I have one here... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Machine_Resources_For_Package_Maintainers 18:18:08 <nirik> thats the one I was testing with the other day 18:18:14 <lmacken> oh, excellent 18:19:10 <nirik> #info start thinking about el7 porting/bringup 18:19:10 <lmacken> cool, on it with root. will test :) 18:19:39 <nirik> ok, any other application news? 18:20:20 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 18:20:30 <nirik> ok, on the sysadmin side... 18:20:47 <nirik> #info migrating netapp lun to another filer, so then they can move our nfs volumes. 18:21:01 <nirik> smooge: any roundup of news on new machines? 18:21:29 <smooge> systems are being wired in. that si about it 18:21:38 <smooge> noting from osu or ibiblio on theirs 18:21:51 <nirik> There is a rhel6 kernel update, so likely I will look at updating *stg* tomorrow and schedule an outage for monday to do the rest. 18:22:01 <smooge> yay 18:22:05 <nirik> smooge: we should actively ping them again... (osu and ibiblio) 18:22:12 * pingou also has to reboot 18:22:55 <nirik> lets see... what else. 18:23:44 <nirik> We will be ordering some new retrace hardware soon and actually our cloud storage got moved to Q1, so we will be looking for it soon too. 18:24:06 <nirik> smooge: we should talk to retrace folks and see needs. I can send an email on that. 18:24:18 <nirik> and we should look around at storage solutions and see what we can get. 18:24:19 <smooge> I sent one yesterday 18:24:24 <smooge> waiting for reply 18:24:25 <mirek-hm> great :) 18:24:44 <smooge> I sent one ot the retrace people that is 18:25:00 <smooge> I thought I ccd you but I guess I didn't 18:25:03 <nirik> smooge: cool. Can you send osu/ibiblio emails too? or want me to? 18:25:19 <smooge> I will do so (and make sure I cc you :)) 18:25:48 <nirik> on storage we need something that speaks iscsi (thats what the cloud can consume easily), ideally 2 units so we can fail back and forth, but 1 if it's HA enough I guess. 18:26:12 <nirik> #info added fed-cloud03 as another cloud compute node this week. 18:27:08 <nirik> ok, I think thats mostly it on the sysadmin side off hand... 18:27:14 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 18:27:14 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 18:27:21 <nirik> anything upcoming folks would like to note or schedule? 18:27:27 <nirik> I'd like to mention a few things: 18:27:42 <nirik> * bodhi2/taskotron FAD. 18:27:52 * threebean nods 18:27:57 <nirik> threebean: has been doing great work moving this forward. 18:28:24 <threebean> so, we just got FPL approval this morning 18:28:29 <nirik> oh nice. 18:28:48 <threebean> so the next step is figuring out, I think, how to actually purchase travel tickets and hotel rooms 18:29:06 <nirik> did we decide for sure on a date? 18:29:21 <nirik> early june? 18:29:40 <threebean> ah, kinda. I sent out an email to all the potential participants suggesting june 1st through june 4th 18:29:50 <threebean> and I only got back positive confirmations so far. 18:29:54 <pingou> \ó/ 18:30:18 <nirik> cool. 18:30:19 <threebean> I think that counts as a decision? :P 18:30:27 <nirik> sounds fine to me. 18:30:29 <pingou> agreed :) 18:30:33 <lmacken> cool :) 18:31:34 * relrod didn't get an email but would love to go (and those dates should be fine for me) 18:31:57 <threebean> oh yeah! 18:32:02 <threebean> relrod: sign up here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Bodhi2_Taskotron_2014 18:32:06 <nirik> we should possibly mail the infra list at least about it too? 18:32:11 <nirik> might be others that are interested? 18:32:29 <relrod> threebean: thanks 18:32:35 <threebean> cool.. its just that this will impact the scope of the budget that the fpl just approved today. 18:32:46 <relrod> :( sorry, I didn't know about that page 18:32:56 <nirik> true. ;( well, we can always cut off today and then re-ask for any additions ? 18:33:27 <threebean> huh.. I probably should've emailed the list with it sooner. sorry.. first time ;/ 18:33:42 <nirik> also, now that we know dates, people can fill in actual costs? 18:34:04 <threebean> yeah, I actually looked up plane fare for the dates and put it in the budget at the bottom already. 18:34:08 <nirik> ah, nice. 18:34:13 <smooge> Ha! I will stay 450 miles away the entire time! 18:34:27 <nirik> smooge: drive on up? ;) 18:34:42 <smooge> only one car to the household so not really :) 18:35:14 <nirik> ok, anything else on this fad? :) 18:35:33 <danofsatx-work> where, again? 18:35:38 <tflink> denver, co 18:35:41 * nirik nods. 18:35:50 <dgilmore> did we decide on dates for sure? 18:36:01 <nirik> dgilmore: everyone said june 1-4th worked. 18:36:08 <threebean> dgilmore: I got back only "yes"s for june1-4th, yeah. 18:36:56 <dgilmore> threebean: nirik: cool, ill look at flights 18:37:41 <nirik> So, I was wondering about another fad later in the year... 'finish ansible migration'. Would there be interest in that from folks? Would people prefer that be seperate later in the year, or perhaps we could see about tying it to flock and have people arrive early or stay late? (but then flock is longer/more busy) 18:38:03 <adimania> I would be interested in that. 18:38:13 * jsmith is half-interested 18:38:29 <nirik> cool. I dont know if everyone interested would also be going to flock? or if seperate would be better? 18:38:30 <dgilmore> nirik: i think seperate from flock 18:39:03 <relrod> separate, and yes interested :) 18:39:03 * pingou is also interested but expensive to fligh 18:39:12 <smooge> I would be interested in that. 18:39:22 <adimania> flight expense may be an issue for me as well. 18:39:32 <nirik> ok. I'll float the idea on the list too, just wanted to toss it out there.... possibly september/oct? 18:39:41 <nirik> adimania: where are you located again? 18:39:48 <adimania> India. 18:40:03 <nirik> ah, ok. Are you going to make it to flock? (in prague) 18:40:15 <relrod> It might be an issue for me with school though, depending on when it was and how long. :/ 18:40:21 <adimania> I hope so. 18:40:28 <dgilmore> nirik: a couple of days either side of flock might be doable 18:40:49 <nirik> dgilmore: thats what I was wondering, but as noted it makes flock longer, more time away, etc. 18:41:00 <nirik> anyhow, will float the idea on the list. 18:41:16 <nirik> and finally, talking about flock: have folks submitted talks? 18:41:32 <nirik> Are there any infra wide things we want to submit or work on? workshops, etc? 18:41:34 <adimania> I have submitted a talk and a workshop. 18:41:38 <dgilmore> nirik: I plan on being in .cz for at least 2 weeks anyway 18:41:41 <nirik> adimania: great! 18:41:47 <adimania> talk on ansible and workshop on docker. 18:42:02 * dgilmore needs to submit talks last i looked there was cert issues and i didnt look into it closer 18:42:10 <mirek-hm> I submited copr talk 18:42:12 * tflink may submit a proposal for a talk on phabricator 18:42:14 <nirik> adimania: ah ha. Yours is the infrastructure ansible one? or the jenkins ansible one? I was thinking of doing an ansible one, but you beat me to it. 18:42:41 <nirik> dgilmore: deadline is soon. 18:42:47 <nirik> apr 3rd I think. 18:42:50 <dgilmore> nirik: certs sorted out? 18:42:54 <nirik> so it's really far in advance. 18:42:58 <adimania> dgilmore, that is because *.rhcloud.com cert is installed there. 18:43:04 <nirik> smooge / lmacken: ^ 18:43:10 <pingou> nirik: a bit too far in advance :( 18:43:11 <smooge> dgilmore, certs aren't going to be settled for a bit 18:43:24 <mirek-hm> but one of the link goes to somethign.rhcloud.com so then cert is ok. 18:43:29 <dgilmore> pretty shoddy to happen 18:43:40 <pingou> https://flock-lmacken.rhcloud.com/ 18:43:49 <dgilmore> pingou: not where i ended up 18:44:01 <adimania> nirik, mine is infrastructure ansible one but I would be more than happy to collaborate with you on this. :) 18:44:04 <smooge> nirik, lmacken the flocktofedora.org is not owned by Red Hat. So it can't get a cert for it. Until the domain is transferred the owner (tom) has to get one. 18:44:05 <nirik> a signed cert really only tells you that someone paid for it. 18:44:07 <relrod> tflink: oh neat. 18:44:13 <mirek-hm> yes, one link is registration.flock.com and that have wrong cert 18:44:17 <mirek-hm> or had 18:44:48 <nirik> adimania: ah, ok. Yeah, happy to help 18:46:10 <nirik> I was thinking of submitting some more community type talks... like 'how to get your way in community projects' or something. will come up with some before the deadline I'm sure. 18:46:35 <pingou> do we want the infra present & future talk? 18:46:42 <pingou> as in, what we are working on? 18:46:59 <nirik> we could. have each person do a part of it? 18:47:22 <adimania> +1 18:47:22 <pingou> if they want, sure that'll make only better :) 18:47:33 <nirik> I could submit that if you like. 18:47:59 <pingou> you can put me co-owner if you want 18:48:49 <nirik> how do you do that? multiple fas names in that field? 18:49:07 <pingou> that what I did for the talk with Stanislav 18:49:11 <nirik> ok 18:49:26 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 18:49:29 * relrod is happy to speak at that too. Could talk about Fedora Mobile or something :) 18:49:36 <nirik> any items for open floor? 18:49:41 <pingou> I won't be there next week, I'll be at LGM w/ ryan :) 18:49:53 <pingou> (and a number of other Fedora contributors) 18:50:21 <danofsatx-work> open floor item: easyfix tickets for fi-apprentices? 18:50:40 <pingou> danofsatx-work: sysadmin or dev? 18:50:46 <danofsatx-work> I've been looking for something to cut my teeth on, but the last tickets were submitted in Feb 18:51:03 <nirik> danofsatx-work: keep meaning to try and file some. ;( will try harder 18:51:05 <danofsatx-work> sysadmin....only code I can write is scripts to to sysadmin work ;) 18:52:17 <danofsatx-work> other than that, nirik knows I want to help with the cloud migration to havana 18:52:18 <nirik> sometimes it's hard to come up with good ones, but I will try. ;) 18:52:31 <smooge> documentation :).. 18:53:25 <adimania> I am going to work some more on mediawiki ansible migration over the weekend. I hope I'll be able to finish it this weekend. 18:54:11 <nirik> adimania: great. 18:55:05 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute. 18:55:54 <nirik> alright. Thanks for coming everyone! 18:55:57 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2014-03-27)
by Kevin Fenzi 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2014-03-27) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:14 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-27/irc-support-sig.… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 17:00:14) * no particular items this week, will cancel (nirik, 17:05:21) Meeting ended at 17:05:24 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (11) * pingou (4) * zodbot (3) -- 17:00:14 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2014-03-27) 17:00:14 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 27 17:00:14 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:14 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:14 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:14 <nirik> #topic init process 17:00:26 <nirik> Anyone around for a quick irc support sig meeting? 17:01:10 * pingou is around but not on #fedora, so not of much help 17:01:24 <nirik> heh 17:01:46 <nirik> I'll wait around for a bit, then just close out if I'm the only one around. 17:01:58 <nirik> probibly should have canceled since we didn't have much on agenda 17:02:26 <pingou> there is a 'shortage' of ticket on the trac lately 17:02:41 <pingou> is it just very quiet? or are there no more conflicts? 17:03:09 <nirik> things have been pretty quiet/normal... 17:03:13 <pingou> cool :) 17:05:05 <nirik> alright then... 17:05:21 <nirik> #info no particular items this week, will cancel 17:05:24 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-26)
by Miloslav Trmač 27 Mar '14

27 Mar '14

=================================== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-03-26) =================================== Meeting started by mitr at 18:00:57 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-26/fesco.2014-03-26… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (mitr, 18:01:03) * sgallagh is here (sgallagh, 18:01:08) * #1253 requesting exception for linking cscppc and cswrap with glibc-static (mitr, 18:05:30) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1253 (mitr, 18:05:34) * AGREED: Static linking exception for cscppc and cswrap approved (+6-1 0x2) (mitr, 18:16:23) * #1221 Product working group activity reports (mitr, 18:16:48) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1221 (mitr, 18:16:52) * Please file Changes (Product-related and others) ASAP, proposal submission deadline is on April 8th. (mitr, 18:18:23) * #1250 F21 Self Contained Changes (mitr, 18:19:05) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1250 (mitr, 18:19:09) * for people submitting similar Changes in the future -- if this affects the default configuration of the installed system it should probably be a system wide change (mattdm, 18:22:38) * AGREED: Security Policy In The Installer was not accepted (-7) (mitr, 18:23:14) * Please consider re-proposing as a kickstart-only feature (mitr, 18:24:08) * #1262 F21 System Wide Change: Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modular_Kernel_Packaging_for_Cloud (mitr, 18:24:22) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1262 (mitr, 18:24:26) * AGREED: Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud approved (+7) (mitr, 18:26:26) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1263 (mitr, 18:26:45) * 1263 F21 System Wide Change: Optional Javadocs - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptionalJavadocs (mitr, 18:30:52) * AGREED: Optional Javadocs change approved (+8) (mitr, 18:32:25) * 1264 F21 System Wide Change: Ruby on Rails 4.1 (mitr, 18:32:35) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1264 (mitr, 18:32:39) * AGREED: Ruby on Rails 4.1 approved (+9) (mitr, 18:34:41) * 1265 Fedora Plasma Product (mitr, 18:35:45) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1265 (mitr, 18:35:49) * LINK: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/2013-linuxquestions-org-members-cho… 2013 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Awards (Dec 2013 - Feb 2014): KDE Plasma 35.77%, Xfce 25.77%, GNOME 9.86% (Kevin_Kofler, 18:52:09) * LINK: http://www.linux-magazin.de/NEWS/Cebit-2014-KDE-Tor-Bitcoin-und-Git-gewinne… Linux New Media Awards 2014 (German) (Jan 2014 - Mar 2014): KDE Plasma 46%, GNOME 18%, Xfce 13% (Kevin_Kofler, 18:52:20) * LINK: http://ryanlerch.fedorapeople.org/getfedora/ (mattdm, 19:01:44) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora#desktops (abadger1999, 19:29:56) * AGREED: recommend to the board that they consider this product for F22, and we commit to establishing milestones for it being on target for that in the mean time. For F21 we continue to consider the KDE Spin (or a renamed version) as release blocking. KDE Spin will continue to have a place on the download page for the Fedora Products. (+5-2) (mitr, 19:38:22) * AGREED: Ask the board a) are they actually okay with a Plasma product in F22, and b) what non-technical criteria should constrain whether we even see fit to bring more product proposals to them in the future? (+5) (mitr, 19:50:36) * ACTION: mattdm to file the board ticket (mattdm, 19:52:53) * #1266 Updates to the non-responsive policy (mitr, 19:57:37) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1266 (mitr, 19:57:41) * AGREED: Proposal: changes as made on Toshios' page approved (+6) (mitr, 20:11:41) * ACTION: abadger1999 to update the nonresponsive maintainer policy page (mitr, 20:11:53) * Next week's chair (mitr, 20:12:05) * dgilmore will chair next week's meeting (mitr, 20:12:46) * Open Floor (mitr, 20:13:14) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Systemd#Activation (abadger1999, 20:17:26) * for cron-to-systemd-time-units, please make sure the necessary packaging guidelines are approved before commiting the patches. (mitr, 20:23:37) Meeting ended at 20:26:49 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mattdm to file the board ticket * abadger1999 to update the nonresponsive maintainer policy page Action Items, by person ----------------------- * abadger1999 * abadger1999 to update the nonresponsive maintainer policy page * mattdm * mattdm to file the board ticket * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mitr (154) * abadger1999 (111) * pjones (92) * mattdm (76) * nirik (75) * sgallagh (65) * dgilmore (43) * ltinkl (36) * jreznik (34) * Kevin_Kofler (32) * jwb (30) * t8m (29) * notting (25) * zodbot (13) * rdieter (11) * kdudka (10) * tibbs (2) * Martix (2) * mjg59 (2) * pingou (1) * mmaslano (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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